Thread: Junior Seau Dead - Suicide

That's what the current lawsuit is about, and why Ditka has his fund raiser for former players.

I don't feel sorry for any person that kills themself. We all have our issues yet I would never put my family in a position to deal my problems if I ended my life. I don't believe that head injuries the players have sustained over the years are the main cause of players ending their life. I think there are a lot of factors that lead to these suicides like feeling worthless now because someone younger has taken your place in football or missing out of the adrenelin rush of playing a physical sport. Perhaps debt and not having that huge pay check is a reason they end their life or they are struggling in life with getting a job.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

I don't feel sorry for any person that kills themself. We all have our issues yet I would never put my family in a position to deal my problems if I ended my life. I don't believe that head injuries the players have sustained over the years are the main cause of players ending their life. I think there are a lot of factors that lead to these suicides like feeling worthless now because someone younger has taken your place in football or missing out of the adrenelin rush of playing a physical sport. Perhaps debt and not having that huge pay check is a reason they end their life or they are struggling in life with getting a job.

Then you are sadly misinformed on this topic. This is NOT a case of "well, hes just depressed and decided to kill himself." No...CTE effects the BRAIN, makes a person act "out of character" (which family and friends confirm after these incidents, like junior's are now). The injuries damage the brain to the point where their behavior goes far beyond simple "depression" or "melancholy" and they act wildly out of character.

Its not about simply struggling 4th, its about changes in the brain due to injury that causes them to act in a wildly erratic way most of us cant really comprehend.

Originally Posted by loki520

I think what you may fail to realize, and it certainly seems so (no offense), is that a lot of suicides are NOT in their right-mind. I'm not calling them crazy (and I assume some actually ARE, but...), but quite a few of them simply can't control their thoughts. It might be "mental illness", such a bi-polar, etc... or it could be something not necessarily an "illness" per se, but still quite able to screw with your mind (injury like Jrs., etc.).

the "crazy" part of it is due to the fact that their brain has suffered an injury, and hence their emotions, feelings and even their own thought process is skewed.

Suicide is done for a wide range of reasons, and yes some of them are due to struggling and the environment. Take the recession...a bad economy typically coincides with an increase in suicide rates, especially among middle aged men and women. This is in stark contrast to lower rates in that age group when the economy is doing fine. So in that sense, struggling with money issues is an environmental factor that can lead to suicide...people are pushed to the point where they see no way out, so they decide the only option left is suicide. Sure, physiological factors can play a factor in this, but the fact these rates spike around times of a bad economy is indicative of struggling with finances to be a factor in these stats.

Compare this with the overal high rate of suicide among teenagers compared to other age groups..this is an example of hormones, and inability to deal with factors like stress and other factors. This is shows how the chemical processes of the brain can lead to higher rate of suicide, and why drug therapy can help, since it seeks to stabilize this chemical imbalance.

Its impossible to say WHY Junior did it without an autopsy on the Brain to detect signs of CTE. Maybe it simply was a case of normal depression combined with other factors such as struggling with finances, stress, his previous arrest and who knows what else he was dealing with. But if it IS a case of him having brain damage from concussions while in the NFL, and his brain shows signs of CTE, then his actions follow a pattern of other tragic incidents like this from former NFL players.

Originally Posted by matsellah

Half of them are linebackers.

the others that have died:

Junior Seau eighth player to die from 1994 Chargers team

• Defensive end Chris Mimsdied due to an enlarged heart on Oct. 15, 2008, in his Los Angeles apartment. He was battling significant weight and financial problems at the time. He was 38.
• Linebacker David Griggs died June 19, 1995 in auto accidentin Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was 28.
• Running back Rodney Culver, 26, and his wife, Karen, died May 11, 1996, when a ValuJet flight crashed in the Florida Everglades, killing all 110 aboard.
• Linebacker Lewis Bush died Dec. 8, 2011, in Tucson of cardiac arrest. He was 42.
• Center Curtis Whitley was found dead due to an apparent drug overdose on May 11, 2008, in Fort Stockton, Texas. He was 39.
• Defensive tackle Shawn Lee died Feb. 26, 2011, in Raleigh, N.C., of cardiac arrest brought on by double pneumonia. He was 44.
• Linebacker Doug Miller was killed by lightning strikes July 21, 1998, in Dotsero, Colo. He was 28.

Another one... just sad, really. R.I.P.