There was an article talking about this I posted mo's ago. detailing the downfall in the sport is going to be the parents no longer letting their kids play, and or states like CA cutting the sport out at the H.S. level b/c of lawsuits from hs players due to concussions.
I think lowering the pads and lessening the helmets would do wonders. Again look at rugby/austrailain rules football. Also look at the liengerie football league. Go and watch how hard those girls were hitting eachother. it's still very violent, but no one is leading w/the head or trying to lay someone out w/a shoulder block b/c it would hurt them as much if not more then the person they were hitting.
Wasn't NFL more brutal back when they played with leatherhelms? I mean all those 2012 equipment must be way better than the old ones.
Comming to think about NHL when goalies had .. well I woudn't even call it a helm.. facemask is the right word for it I guess, and the other players didn't need a helm/facemask lol.
The hard tackels, the fights.. that's what people want to see. I can tell you from the Danish NHL there is NO fights at all, because then they get gamemisconduct, which is imo destroying the sport.
So my point is I guess: Don't remove the game, or make it a game for cry babies like that one Jimmors posted.
This isnt quite the same.
As mentioned, back in the days, people were smaller and slower then they are now. People were never in the kind of physical condition that they are in now, and in terms of hockey, it was played much different as well. Blades were straight and pucks couldnt get more then 3-4 inches off the ice.
Both sports are having similar issues of where equiptment is actually being made inncorrectly, to the point that it is making these players into, as described often in the hockey world, human torpedoes. Bigger, stronger, faster humans wearing equpitment that is built more for effectively getting the job done then it is built for protection on the other hand. Once equpitment is changed, sports will become much safer
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I agree calgary. These guys feel like their indistructable and lay hits that they wouldn't if they were less "protected". They've taken their protective gear and turned it into an offensive weapon.
I don't think this Hardy hurt himself with using it. Probably the master of the shoulder block
Did you see the shoulder pads he was wearing at 2:34? By then the helmets and gear were already getting more sophisticated.You throw a hit on a guy like that w/just your shoulders and you're going to get hurt also
Also notice the $500 bounty that got brought up shortly after? These playrs are going to have to settle out of court methinks. Someone in the Def group is going to pull out all these old tapes of these former players talking about the game and how it was played and make a good case against them to say you knew what was going on and willingly continued.
Yeah, I don't think we've heard the last of the bounty system. Did anyone check out the Jimmy Mac interview on his short term memory loss on the espn nfl show last night?
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We can all agree that what happened to Shea is a horrible thing, however you gotta be careful you don't destroy the sport. Perhaps NFL should just make it more clear to college/high school players what risk there is involed with playing football. I like the new kick off rule, however rumors said that some was thinking of removing kick off totally, which I think is taking a way one of the charms of the game.
We all remember Hester's kick off return in the SB, those things must stay in NFL.
Changing the rule of head use is perhaps a good thing, but don't let the sport get wrapped into bubble wrap.
Ultimately, parents will decide if the NFL stays or goes. The more we learn about the brain and brain injuries, the more the spotlight will shine on football and other violent sports. At the end of the day, it will be parents steering their children away from the game that will be its undoing.
I have an idea. Why don't we get Congress to form a committee probing all of these incidents of head trauma-related medical problems and suicides, and then see what kind of legislation we can get passed and signed by our communist of a president? You know that those idiots in Washington are just dying to get their mitts on this issue and thus find something else on which to waste taxpayer money. Nevermind the fact that these players choose or chose to play the game, let's change the whole dynamic and complexion of the game as we know it by Federal mandate.
Maybe football needs to go away for good. If people can't accept the fact that there are consequences that come with playing the game and thus take responsibility for their own actions, they ought not play. Period. Bottom line.
I have an idea. Why don't we get Congress to form a committee probing all of these incidents of head trauma-related medical problems and suicides, and then see what kind of legislation we can get passed and signed by our communist of a president? You know that those idiots in Washington are just dying to get their mitts on this issue and thus find something else on which to waste taxpayer money. Nevermind the fact that these players choose or chose to play the game, let's change the whole dynamic and complexion of the game as we know it by Federal mandate.
Maybe football needs to go away for good. If people can't accept the fact that there are consequences that come with playing the game and thus take responsibility for their own actions, they ought not play. Period. Bottom line.
Did you even watch the clip that I posted? If you did, you would have seen that a former player said pretty much what you are saying. The guys that choose to play the game NEED to know what the potential consequences should be and then they can make an INFORMED choice as to whether or not to pursue a career in the NFL. The NFL needs to determine what those consequences are and allow those that participate do so with full knowledge of those consequences. To do any less is criminal.
At the end of the day, my initial point remains, it will be parents that steer their boys away from football that ultimately will kill it.
And I am sorry but I thought that politics belonged elsewhere? While I respect and appreciate your politics, Obama is WAY short of communism. That is exactly the type of rhetoric that essentially prohibits rational political discussion. That comment is inflammatory to say the least and moronic to say the most. And it is that comment that forces message boards to put their political forums away from everything else so the extremes of each spectrum can spout their hate and fear away from the rest of the civil discussion.
Last edited by purplejokr; 05-17-2012 at 12:32 AM.
Time after time you hear players on the old football shows talking about making sure they played, even if hurt, and before the lawsuite Urlacher talked about trying to hide his concussion symptoms; it seems these guys were and are aware of the dangers. I honestly think the lawsuit is b/c of the failed attempts of the past players to get some kind of compensation for their currrent hardships(before the big money days) through the NFL or NFLPA. If the NFL/PA had actually done something for the reitired vets would this lawsuit have been sought?
I wonder where the implied danger is though Purple; Boxing and MMA for certain have far more to worry about if this lawsuit holds up. Where boxers ever made clearly aware of the long term effects of their sport? Look at Ali; is what he is now what he signed up for when he started boxing back in the day?
And I agree parents will start steering kids away from football...I am...I would much rather my kids play basketball, soccor or baseball, golf or tennis. They also have, while smaller american options, far larger options around the world if they're good enough to play, and much less dangerous when it comes to long term body/brain damage.
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