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    Interesting theory about Romo

    Got this off of the dallas cowboys message board. Guy doens't think Orton is better then Romo(that's stupid) but the theory is, if Romo cannot get them into the playoffs then why pay him what starting QB's are going to get paid? Let Orton start or help backup/teach a rookie qb start and start to rebuild. Which is why he thinks they paid 10mil for 3 years for Orton, might be a valid theory.



    http://boards.dallascowboys.com/topi...owboys-future/


    Its one thing to say how great a quarterback is, how they CAN win it all as oppose to HAVE won it all, how that he is one of the best in the league with all the stats ranked directly behind the Brady's, Brees's, Mannings, Rodgers etc....
    But its another thing to say "Drew Brees's new contract means good news for the cowboy's quarterback".

    At a time when Jerry Jones is talking "Window Closings"(as in he will close windows rather than age) evaluations and re-evaluations will be handled with extreme prejudice.

    The Descent:

    Mickey Spagnola: "What else do you like about this team going forward?"

    Jerry Jones: "What we saw in our OTA and in our Mini camp is that we've got us a heck of a backup QB in Kyle Orton uh but now were talking about someone who has proven
    his stripes but we certainly saw that and been given an example of that with the way he threw the ball and how he moved the team during our OTAs
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    So I like where we are there.


    "We'd like to think that we are going to have Romo and that we are going to have him all the way. One of the most disappointing things about last year is that we DID! have Romo, He had an outstanding season and we DIDN"T! get there.
    We have GOT to correct that. "

    "But I like where we are there"


    I find it interesting JJ said "We'd like to think that we are going to have Romo and that we are going to have him all the way" after saying that I'd thought JJ would say because "we know how messed up it is to lose your starting quarterback" but he said "One of the most disappointing things about last year is that we DID! have Romo, He had an outstanding season and we DIDN"T! get there. We have GOT to correct that. "


    All of that was said after he had already explained the upgrades to the team. So he wasn't talking about the Oline, defense and secondary.


    Valuable Business Decision:
    Right now Kyle Orton is not only insurance for IF the cowboys starting QB goes down but also insurance if the cowboys organization doesn't want to give their starting QB a $100 million mega contract.

    Kyle Orton has a $10.5M 3year contract. The cowboys can trade up and get the #1 draft pick next season to get Barkley or the 2nd pick to get Thomas in next years draft and pay no more than $22 mill for 4 years. When you add those numbers up you get 2 quality QBs, financing the future, for $8.5 per year for both for up to 3 years. At the end of the 3 years you can decide to either give Orton the contract the starting QB has now or push it some more by allowing the younger QB to become the starter in his 3rd year and play thru his 4th year making $5.5 mill and finally re-signing him to a new contract after his last year for the same contract as the starter right now or the $100mill long contract.

    With the money saved the cowboys could afford to probably replace DWare and save even more money while adding quality and quantity so long as the scouts are on top of their game and the coaches have created a plug n play type system to plug players in. That could probably mean superbowls even before the cowboys have to pay a QB big time $$$

    I'm not saying this is what the cowboys should do I'm just saying It probably has crossed some minds. When faced with the prospect of giving one player a $100 million contract. That player had better be head, shoulders, chest and knee above the next available option and if the next available option can perform at the same level with miniscule drop off then that drop off may be worth NOT paying $100 mill.
    Besides Jon Kitna @ 39 years of age didn't do so bad and Kyle Orton is head and shoulders better than Jon Kitna.


    Your thoughts.

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    All I've gotta say is Romo for all intents and purposes is the best QB not to win a SB at this point. I seem to remember just having gotten back from deployment, and watching THEIR ****** Coach screw up a game winning drive (that woulda kept the Giants out of the playoffs, too) by freezing their own kicker. It's all about coaching and not about this guy. If we didn't have Cutler, I'd want the Bears to pick him up in a heartbeat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Got this off of the dallas cowboys message board. Guy doens't think Orton is better then Romo(that's stupid)
    I agree with the guy who doesn't think Orton is better than Romo

    Romo>Orton

    I agree with Burris

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    I agree too. But would you want to pay close to 100mil for a guy that hasn't gotten you to a playoffs more then 2 times and only won 1x? Or would you be willing to trade up and take a rook and start over?

    I like Romo, but the guy hasn't gotten it done, why pay that kind of money if that is the going price next year(when his contract ends).

    Orton couldn't sniff Romo's jock, Romo makes that OL look a lot better then it atually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    I agree too. But would you want to pay close to 100mil for a guy that hasn't gotten you to a playoffs more then 2 times and only won 1x? Or would you be willing to trade up and take a rook and start over?

    I like Romo, but the guy hasn't gotten it done, why pay that kind of money if that is the going price next year(when his contract ends).

    Orton couldn't sniff Romo's jock, Romo makes that OL look a lot better then it atually is.
    The question is, is the talent level difference between Romo and Orton worth the extra money. Orton is a human statue with an arm which may be slightly above average at best.

    Romo is can move, at least more than Orton, and has a good arm. Not getting to the playoffs should not fall completely on him (outside of the botched snap for a kick)

    As far as money..... how much is Cutler reported to get his next deal? He took us to the playoffs once in three years.

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    That's part of it, but the over riding idea was if they do it, they move up in the draft to get a top qb prospect and then you're paying 20-30 mil to him to be your future and 10 mil to his backup/mentor instead of all that money to a guy you know cannot do it.

    The idea isn't Orton better then Romo so let Orton play; the idea is Romo cannot get it done so lets move on; and Orton is a hell of a backup/mentor incase he has to come in and play while the new guy gets up to speed.

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    Romo just doesn't have the edge that the great QBs have. Some QBs can elevate their team and make enough plays to overcome poor defensive play but he can't. He has real nice numbers and all but there are way too many excuses made for Romno not being able to elevate his team's play. I'd get rid of him too if he doesn't make them playoff bound this year. That money is better spent elsewhere.

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    That's a good theory Ric and I'm with you. That's a lot money to be paying a guy that isn't getting that team to a new level.

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    Cowboys want to win now and they have a better chance with Romo in the next 3-6 years than with Orten + an unknown NFL player

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    German, but JJ said himself the window is closing. If the window is closing why pay what the now elite QB's are getting paid if the guy you have isn't capable of even getting you to the playoffs? How do you sell to your team and fanbase giving romo 50-100 mil and shutting down your cap for him when he's been to 2 playoffs and one 1? This isn't about Orton+unkown getting you to a higher place, it's about money and makng a choise to move on from your qb instead of paying an outrageous sum so that you can build a better team. Young high round qb, being mentored by Orton offers more hope to your fanbase then another year of Romo not getting you to the playoffs; and hamstringing your ability to make the playoffs because so much money is tied up in a guy that cannot get it done.

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