2013 Chicago Cubs Thread

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  1. little bear

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/19334/front-office-shines-in-win

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    Maybe next year....

    I guess I've been saying that since 1967 or so.

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    yea.... waiting is the hardest part. But I love the Cubs so I will continue to be there
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    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/21791755/will-cubs-change-logo-uniforms-

    Will Cubs change logo, uniforms?

    This is sure to be met with outrage from some old-school types, as any potential changes to traditional things in baseball are, but there's a report that the Cubs' marketing department is considering changes to the logo and uniforms, in addition to adding a Jumbotron to Wrigley Field.

    From Bleacher Nation, a Cubs blog, we present the following:

    According to a BN'er who was at a small focus group held earlier this week by marketing executives, the Cubs are exploring a number of branding changes in the coming years, including new uniforms and a new logo.

    Although the familiar home pinstripe unis aren't under consideration for revamping, the focus group was shown a variety of potential road uniform changes, including a navy blue look (as opposed to the “Cubbie blue”), which was apparently designed to have a “vintage” feel. The Cubs are also considering regular throwback jerseys that they would wear on Sundays, or at least some kind of alternate jersey which would commemorate the 100 year anniversary of Wrigley Field in 2014. Similarly, the revamped road jerseys are under consideration for 2014.

    The group was also shown a variety of different Cubs logos, according to the source, though the classic “C” cap logo is not currently being reconsidered (whew). The reconsidered logos ranged from subtle changes to the “C,” to the old school bear look, to completely new logos.

    First things first: This was only a focus group, which means any changes under consideration are in the preliminary stages in the discussion. It could be a situation where absolutely nothing at all comes of this.

    Also, it sounds like the traditional home pinstripes and the hat are safe. Thus, I would hope any anger from the fanbase would be kept to a minimum. The logo with a bear has been tinkered with through the years, just as the road uniforms have been. And I have to say, I love the idea of a navy-blue road uniform that would contain similarities to the threads from a century ago. Click here to see what the 1911 road uni looked like, via HeritageSportsArt.com. A modern-day styling in that mold has tremendous potential, in my opinion.

    As far as the Jumbotron idea, this is the sporting world we live in. It's not like they'd be tearing down the center-field scoreboard or the home-plate marquee.


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    I didn't hear about this rumor until today. Jerseys and logo are still one of the best in baseball. Really hope they're not thinking about changing anything any time soon.

    What's take your take on this, Benji? Is it a credible source?
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    The road grey is horrible, glad they are changing it... It at least discussing the idea. Think it's as good as done since they have not worn the grey tops on the road for a while.


    The classic home uniforms are staying so that's cool.

    I think they only add in the throw backs for Sundays and change up the road unis
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    What I meant was I don't want them to change their home pinstripe uniforms. ;-)
    So yeah, that's cool. ^^
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    http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/9748610/chicago-cubs-fire-manager-dale-sveum-two-years

    Cubs fire manager Dale Sveum

    CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs have fired manager Dale Sveum after finishing last in the NL Central for the first time in seven years.

    The Cubs closed the season dropping 41 of their final 59 games, including six of their final seven. They finished 66-96, and Sveum went 127-197 in his two seasons at the helm. He had one year left on a three-year deal signed before the 2012 season.

    "I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very disappointed," Sveum said to reporters outside Wrigley Field. "You're optimistic, but you know what can happen."
    The move came after a morning meeting with team president Theo Epstein.

    "We had hoped that Dale would continue to grow with the organization and see it through here," Epstein said in a news conference.

    Sveum's job security was undoubtedly hurt by the slow development of shortstop Starlin Castro and first baseman Anthony Rizzo, who appeared to regress this year.

    "Things like this have to settle in. I don't like sitting out," Sveum said of what he'll do next. "I'm a baseball guy and love being around it and part of it."

    His dismissal likely will ramp up speculation surrounding the status of New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi, a Peoria, Ill., native who played at nearby Northwestern.

    Girardi's contract with the Yankees expires at the end of October. He'll talk with the Yankees before exploring other opportunities.

    Speaking before Sunday's season finale in Houston, Girardi said, "It's not my personality to drag things out."

    Epstein said in the news conference that the Cubs "need certain things we are more likely to find outside the organization at this point."

    "We are clearly going to prioritize track record and managerial experience or, in lieu of extensive managerial experience, leadership," Epstein said. "There has to be someone that is a proven leader."

    Epstein was effusive in his lauding of Sveum's effort in a morning news release to announce the move.

    "In his own authentic and understated way, Dale always put the team first and never complained about the hand he was dealt," Epstein said in the statement. "He and his staff helped us excel in game planning and defensive positioning, contributed to the emergence of several players, and helped put us in position to make some important trades.

    "I have no doubt that -- much like Terry Francona, whom we hired in Boston after his stint with a losing Phillies club -- Dale will go on to great success with his next team."

    Cubs reliever James Russell also praised Sveum.

    "You feel like you've sort of let him down," Russell said Monday on the "Carmen and Jurko" radio show on ESPN Chicago 1000. "Managers are the ones that get blamed for losing ballgames. It's unfortunate, but essentially we're the guys out there on the field, that really didn't play that well ... and it kind of falls down on the manager, which kind of sucks.
    "Even last year, losing 100 games, which, it'd drive a lot of people crazy, he showed up to the field and was the same person day in and day out. He was great, he handled it awesome, it showed a lot to the players in the locker room and to the staff, I'd think, as well.

    "Nobody ever had a problem with him. He's one of the most even-keeled guys I've ever met. He was fun to have around, and he was awesome to play for."

    The Cubs had just hired Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer when Sveum was tabbed to replace Mike Quade after the 2011 season.

    Sveum had little experience as a manager other than an interim stint for the Milwaukee Brewers late in 2008 after Ned Yost was fired. But he did have a history with Epstein and Hoyer, having served as the Boston Red Sox's third-base coach in 2004 and 2005 while Epstein and Hoyer worked in the team's front office.

    Sveum knew what he was getting into, that the Cubs were in the early stages of a top-to-bottom overhaul they hoped would transform the team into a perennial contender. That hasn't happened. And if there is a payoff, Sveum won't be around to see it.

    With talented prospects such as Javier Baez, Jorge Soler, Albert Almora and Kris Bryant in the system, things look promising at the minor league level. At the majors, it's a different story.

    With the Cubs shedding long-term prospects and dealing anyone with trade value in an effort to build the farm system, losses have been piling up at a staggering rate even for a franchise that last won a championship in 1908. The Cubs have dropped at least 91 games in three straight seasons for the first time, and they appear to be at least a year or two from making a significant jump in the win column.

    They've taken mostly a frugal approach in free agency, going for players with low financial risks rather than making big splashes.
    The Cubs did make a big-ticket player purchase last offseason, signing starter Edwin Jackson to a four-year, $52 million contract, but he's been a flop. They also traded away veteran pitchersMatt Garza and Scott Feldman and longtime left fielder Alfonso Soriano.

    Through it all, the front office insisted Sveum would be judged on development rather than record, and that probably was his downfall, as Castro and Rizzo, who have long-term contracts, took steps back this season.

    Castro continues to be an enigma, prone to lapses in the field, and he couldn't make up for it at the plate. The two-time All-Star's batting average has been in a steady decline.

    Starting pitcher Jeff Samardzija didn't quite deliver the way the Cubs hoped, either. At times, he can look like an All-Star, but he gave up five or more runs eight times.

    Sveum did not appear to be in any real jeopardy until late in the season, when things got tense.

    Jackson had words with Sveum in the dugout over being pulled after four innings in a game at Milwaukee. The next day, Samardzija got into it with third-base coach David Bell over defensive positioning. That, too, happened in the dugout. Later that week, Kevin Greggnearly was released following a rant to reporters after he thought he lost the closer's job.

    After all that, Epstein let Sveum dangle when he was asked about his status, saying the manager would be evaluated at the end of the season.

    Epstein, in the extensive news release, insisted the overhaul is on target.

    "Soon, our organization will transition from a phase in which we have been primarily acquiring young talent to a phase in which we will promote many of our best prospects and actually field a very young, very talented club at the major league level," he said. "The losing has been hard on all of us, but we now have one of the top farm systems in baseball, some of the very best prospects in the game, and a clear path forward.

    "In order for us to win with this group -- and win consistently -- we must have the best possible environment for young players to learn, develop and thrive at the major league level."

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    I've come to the conclusion baseball shouldn't exist in Chicago, I guess in a way it doesn't.
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    Well, Chicago suffered through its worst collective season in their history.

    But, as Cub fans (not sure if you are) that is why I write for World Series Dreaming. We write serious blogs there, but also try to have fun with the losing.
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    No, I'm originally a southsider. I wish the Sox would have moved to Indy before they built the new stadium. I don't believe 2 teams anymore in this day and age can exist in one town because of $ constraints. Sox being on the blue collar side of town and the wrong side of the dollar it would have made more sense to move before the build.
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    http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9758268/joe-girardi-new-york-yankees-manager-drawing-serious-interest-chicago-cubs-sources-say

    Cubs interested in Joe Girardi

    Brian Cashman's meeting with Joe Girardi's agent Wednesday comes at a time when theChicago Cubs have serious interest in hiring the New York Yankees' manager, sources told ESPN.
    Chicago fired Dale Sveum on Monday, and sources say that Cubs ownership views Girardi as someone who can help put a jolt into fan interest in the team.

    The Cubs' attendance has declined in each of the past five seasons, at a time when the organization is trying to rebuild and probably is at least two or three years away from contending again. Hiring Girardi in anticipation of increased fan interest could be more financially efficient for the Cubs than pursuing big-money free-agent players.

    The Cubs' baseball operations department has only begun its search for the next manager and isn't locked into Girardi -- or anyone else -- as its primary option.

    But sources say that Cubs ownership wants Girardi, is making a strong internal argument to hire him and intends to make him a serious contract offer, if given the chance.

    The negotiations between the Yankees and Girardi could proceed quickly, given New York's intention -- as stated by Cashman to reporters Tuesday -- to offer him a raise.

    Cashman declined to say if he would grant Girardi permission to speak to the Cubs. Because Girardi is under contract until Oct. 31, a source told ESPNNewYork.com that the Yankees are hesitant to give him permission to speak with the Cubs.

    The highest-paid manager in the sport is Mike Scioscia, at $5 million annually, with Jim Leyland next at $4 million. The Yankees presumably will offer Girardi something close to the top of the market, more than the $3 million he earned annually under the terms of his current contract.

    If Girardi rejects New York's offer -- to pursue the Cubs' job, or to work in television -- then the Yankees may rapidly move ahead with the search for their next manager.

    From the Yankees' point of view, allowing Girardi to talk to the Cubs prior to Oct. 31 would only give Girardi more leverage in negotiations. If talks were to break down, the Yankees might let him talk to the Cubs.

    As the Cubs wait for Girardi's situation to play out, they continue to keep other options on the table. Sources told ESPN.com that they've checked in with the San Diego Padres about assistant general manager A.J. Hinch, who previously managed the Arizona Diamondbacksto an 89-123 record during the 2009-2010 seasons.

    Hinch, a Stanford product, spent seven seasons in the big leagues as a catcher with Oakland, Kansas City, Detroit and Philadelphia. He's one potential fallback option if things fail to work out with Girardi in Chicago. Although the Cubs have yet to ask for permission to interview Hinch, that's expected to be a mere formality.

    Industry sources also said the Cubs' list of potential managerial candidates does not include former big league catcher Brad Ausmus, who is currently working as a special assistant in San Diego. While Ausmus is regarded by many as a future managerial star, the Cubs appear to be looking for someone with more experience in the dugout.

    Girardi said Sunday that he would like his situation to be cleared up shortly.

    Girardi is an Illinois native who attended Northwestern and played for the Cubs. He managed the Marlins in 2006, when he was named the National League Manager of the Year, before taking over the Yankees in 2008.

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    Interesting idea, but I don't think it's wise to spend all that kind of money on Girardi. Spend it elsewhere.
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    This is one of the top comments on the article and I can't say I disagree with him.
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    I think Girardi is a good choice. He knows how to work with young players. He won manger of the year in his first and only year with a young Marlins club.

    I think he would be a great fit
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    Of course he would be a good choice but I'm afraid the Cubs would spend too much $ on him.
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    They will make him a top 3 paid coach.

    But remember, that does not usually affect the roster's payroll. Which will be small these few years considering the kids they are calling up
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cub...latin-american-presence?ex_cid=espnapi_public

    Sources: Cubs eye Latin American presence

    The Chicago Cubs lacked a prominent Latin American coaching presence in their dugout the past two seasons, and they will look to address the issue as they hire a new manager and coaches, according to sources familiar with the situation.

    Several Latin American candidates have emerged in the Cubs' search to replace Dale Sveum. Former Washington Nationals and Cleveland Indians manager and current ESPN analyst Manny Acta interviewed with the Cubs this week. San Diego Padres bench coach Rick Renteria is also expected to interview, according to a source. Cleveland Indians bench coach Sandy Alomar Jr., who interviewed for the Cubs job before Sveum was hired in 2011, and former Cub Dave Martinez could be options, as well.

    The Cubs' Franklin Font, a staff assistant, was the lone Latin American coach on the previous staff. In fact, the Cubs have only two Latin American rostered coaches in their minor league system.

    The Cubs have several core Latin American players, including Starlin Castro, Junior Lake and Welington Castillo. Prominent minor leaguers Albert Almora, Jorge Soler and Javier Baez are on the way. There also is a belief in the Cubs' front office, sources said, that Castro, who had the worst season of his career, could have benefited from having a Latin American coach on staff this season.

    The move to add more Latin American coaches to the system would be consistent with the team's commitment to developing talent in the region. The Cubs are constructing a training facility in the Dominican Republic.

    "It's about doing everything we can to be the best organization in baseball, and you can't be the best organization in baseball unless you have a strong presence in the Dominican and a strong presence in Latin America," Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts told MLB.com when the Cubs unveiled the plans for the facility in January 2012.

    Forgetting the other aspects of the job, Alomar might be the best candidate to fill this role, although he has not been contacted about the job, according to a source. He's not so far removed from playing that he can't relate to current players and he has the respect of many around the league.


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    Give me Davey Martinez as Cubs manager

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