2014 FIFA World Cup

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  1. little bear

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    I love how soccer haters have to move the goal posts ever so slightly to continue their hate...it used to just be soccer will never catch on in the US...now that soccer has and is clearly "catching on" in the US, it's soccer will never "exponentially grow" in the next few years...lol...yes, Mr. Olbermann...or otherwise known as the most irreverent sports pundit on the planet (is he still on TV, or does he just make YouTube videos?)...soccer (MLS) will not overtake the NFL, MLB or the NBA anytime soon...let us all bask in the brilliance of your insightfulness, all while ignoring nobody ever thought that would be the case in the first place...
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    wait it has "clearly caught on"? The WC is like the Olympics or Hockey, it does really well every 4 years and then falls back to obscurity. MLS still sucks and has next to no coverage. And Soccer ratings have actually shrank in viewership since the last WC, outside of Beckum coming then it flatlined, and then shrank again when he retired.
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    Yes, the MLS sucks...but soccer in general will not fall back in obscurity after the WC...its wasn't in obscurity prior to the WC...NBC Sports does not shell out $250 million over 3 years for a sport that is wallowing in obscurity (US TV rights for English Premier League)...10 years ago, soccer of any kind on US TV was unheard of...now, there are easily dozens upon dozens of soccer games most weeks on even the most basic satellite/cable packages...popular is the NFL? Hell, no...living in obscurity? Not quite...
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    Through....
  7. riczaj01

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    errrrrrr wrongo.

    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AsOUUzbr3CP.63_oHEsOL3ibvZx4?fr=yfp-t-303-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=graph of us soccer tv ratings

    I present to you factual data in the above link

    The United States' mostly inspired—and occasionally soul-crushing—group play in the World Cup this year has garnered record-breaking ratings. Our first match, a victory over Ghana, was the most-watched soccer game ever on ESPN. Official ratings for the second match, a brutal tie against Portugal, are still being processed, but they will certainly (and deservedly) be astronomical.
    Does America finally love soccer?
    No. Or, more specifically: No, there isn't yet much evidence that rapt TV audiences from the World Cup will keep watching soccer between quadrennial worldwide championships. Soccer isn't becoming America's new baseball. The World Cup is becoming America's new Summer Olympics.
    World Cup ratings have steadily grown since 2006. But to see the U.S.-Ghana game in its proper context, look at average television sports audiences for U.S. championships (RED), U.S. regular seasons (BLUE), and quadrennial worldwide contests (GREEN).
    Record-Setting World Cup Ratings, but in Context
    Audience numbers in millions (average for multi-game events)
    The soccer evangelist says: The World Cup is nearly as popular as the World Series on television. The soccer skeptic says: ... and in the 1,400 days between World Cup matches, everybody goes back to not watching soccer on TV.
    There is good news for MLS investors and soccer fans. Average stadium attendance is way up in the last few years. Networks are desperate to break out soccer, because the audiences are young, the Hispanic population is growing, and the exclusive rights are dirt cheap compared to the NFL and NBA. But the reality is that nobody is watching American soccer outside the stadium (and few Americans are watching world-class matches in the Premier League on NBC). Here are the ratings for MLS finals in the last two decades. This picture doesn't really require explanation.
    MLS Finals: A Shrinking TV Audience
    In 2012, 32 million Americans watched Usain Bolt win the 100-meter race. It wasn't a reflection of racing's emergence as a major TV destination. It was a reflection that the Summer Olympics are a special glimpse of rare global talent that air when America's most popular sports, the NFL and NBA, are dormant.
    The World Cup is essentially a single-sport Summer Olympics introducing tens of millions of viewers to a thrilling contest in a sport they typically don't care about. Unfortunately for America's soccer fans, the vast majority of yesterday's domestic viewers won't watch another soccer game between August and 2018.



    Nothing but a downward trend since 96, flatlining in 04, upticked in 2011 and downard trended in 2012/13. It will uptick again in 2014 b/c of WC and then will continue it's downward trend and/or flatline.
    You'll have to click the link to see the graphs.
  8. riczaj01

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    Now to be fair, soccer will finally kick on and get real traction in about 15-20 years when there is substational 18-40 year old fans, but right now it just isn't there, and won't be for awhile.
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    anyways, the US looked brutal out there today, they should be happy they only lost 1-nil. They play like that vs belguim and it will be a much worse outcome.
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    The MLS is not the end all be all of soccer in the US...claiming soccer has not caught on in the US because the MLS is still a 2nd rate league, with 2nd rate viewership is a false dichotomy...

    Once again, SOCCER, soccer in general, has caught on in the US...lots of people play it, lots of TV stations televise it, major sports media outlets covers it...the ESPN "ticker" is always showing European soccer scores...cricket, badminton, ping pong, curling, rugby...not so much...Why? Because those sports have not caught on in the US...

    Nobody is saying the MLS or even soccer in general is going to displace Baseball or Football in popularity or ratings anytime soon...which seems to be your standard of " catching on".... it's a ridiculous, unfair standard....
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    They started a bit shaky but they settled in nicely...Germany was not holding back at all...0-1 was a very good, respectable outcome...They play like they did today and they have a chance against anyone...a chance...but Belgium is very good team, everyone knows that...
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    premereleague got it's highest viewers of 1.1 mil over a month between may and june this year...ie world cup year.

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...atched-primetime-month-in-its-history/268659/

    1.1 mil viwers in a month....a month....let that sink in. Those are #'s are putrid, Thurs night football on NFL Network get 3.8 mil and that's 1 game. MLB on espn averages 1.1 mil viewers per game. Fox broke records for their opening day MLB schedule this year, some getting 2.9 mil viewers.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/seth-vertelney-mls-tv-ratings-054511659--mls.html

    And to be honest, MLS averaged 311K viewers per game, if there are 4 televised MLS games a month, they are outdoing the premere league in that month by 100K viewers.


    Anyways, USA game today what did you think about it? I honestly thought the goalie had his best game, but the rest of the team really lagged. It really felt they were working more for a tie, but weren't going to care about a 1 goal loss.
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    Belgium is going to be a problem, and I think thats why Germany was looking for an outright win, I don't think they wanted to get stuck w/a late US goal hoping for a 0-0 tie. They came out strong w/a ton of shots on goal and I knew it was only a matter of time before they got one in; just didn't expect it to be that easy.

    Ya after about the first 5 or so minutes the US settled in, but they started to tire about 40 or so minutes in, and they looked like that after HT also.
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    Fun history fact - Football (American) took almost 60 years to "catch on" as a sport, and even then sucked in comparison to baseball. It took another 30 years for it to be considered at the same level as baseball, and then another 15 to surpass it.

    Quit hating. The sport is indeed gaining traction in the US, someone just needs to convince sports center to put highlights on the show and not just a score across the crawl. The game is huge in the US on Saturday mornings (youth). Just need 3 generations of saturday morning players to grow up to homeowner age for the traction to meet Ric's standard (and the ESPN highlights as well).
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    BS, I've said it's going to take 15-20 years to start to take hold. It's going to take the 18-20 year old to be 40+, the 10-15 year olds to be in their 30's or so and the kids now to be in the 18 range to have it finally take hold, so I'm not saying it will even take that long.

    But right now, as of last year the viewership it is DOWN and has SHRUNK since 2011. Any traction has slid off a cliff. This year it will shoot up again, and then continue to slide for another 4-10 years; but then it will start to turn, and hell it might not take that long.
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    IMO the coverage is the problem. My kids won't watch the broadcasts on ESPN, they want to watch it on Univision. To them, Univision broadcasts are fun, even if they don't understand most of what is said. US/British broadcasts are boring.
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    If your sport is relying on the broadcasts to make them entertaining, then I think I found a larger issue.

    They definately could use someone more along the lines of a madden, harry carey or Vital. A real color commentator of some sorts.
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    No games today, but do yourself a favor and set up your remote to flip back and forth between ESPN and Univision broadcasts. You'll see what I mean.
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    This sport needs fighting as an attempt to make it interesting.

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