2014 Free Agents -- Defensive Linemen

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    I am drafting AND looking for FA. But considering where we are in draft order, it more likely to get a high-quality pass rusher via FA than draft IMO.
     
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    IDK about that. I mean, I understand that top quality free agents are a proven commodity, but I don't think Chicago's dropping big money on a defensive player in the offseason. Henry Melton was the only one that would've made sense, but due to his injury, he's NOT getting the pay day he wanted, I'm sure. I think drafting DE and DT in 2 of the first 3 rounds is a MUST.
     
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    Ya but if you don't have the cap then you don't have the ability to get those of value. Again the team has a ton of potential cap space, but Cutler is going to take a huge chunk of that, and Jennings at minimal will get another big portion. Not to mention a handfull of the slew of other FA's the team has that needs to resign just to field a team.

    I'd be all in on the top DT in FA, it just is not likely to happen if Cutler gets resigned along w/the other necessary resigns from Chicago. The team is going to have to take the 2nd or 3rd tier DT/DE guys and draft for those positions.
     
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    As much as I want to resign Cutler, I would not let him break the bank. Offer him fair market value + incentive bonuses. His package should be closer to $60 million than $100 million. and if he thinks he's worth more, let him test the market. Reality check. He is not in the same league as Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady, His peers are guys like Rivers and Ryan, and Bears should pay accordingly. That will conserve some cap space. Cut Peppers, Hester, McClellin to get more. Get all the dead weight off the roster, and we'll have enough cap to compete on the FA market.

    I would trade Jennings or anybody else to get a high-quality pass rusher either via draft or FA. The difference between us is that I put higher priority on getting upgrades at DE.
     
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    fair market value is breaking the bank at 50-80 mil a year; and I bet b/c of the Romo/Flacco deal it's going to be closer to 80 mil.
     
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    If he continues to prove he can protect the football, and make better decisions (and this has to be proven over the entire season), and Trestman feels Jay is the guy he wants as he moves forward building a Super Bowl winning team in Chicago - then Jay is a $90 to $100 mil contract guy. That's just my gut feeling. I think one of the post game guys last night threw out the $100-mil figure (Michael Irvin I think was the one).

    I'm not saying he is (or isn't) worth this much money. I'm just saying the Bears gambled on not floating a contract out, to sign Jay on the cheap. Now they will have to pay more money, if (big if here) Jay puts together a season's "body of work" that fulfills that first paragraph above.
     
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    Uh, no. You really think bringing in an unproven QB is worth helping the rebuilding of our defense? No a thousand times to your logic here.
     
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    Well, $60 million only breaks the bank if you insist on keeping a bunch of other high-priced contracts guys on the roster who are not pulling the weight of their contracts this season -- Peppers, Hester, McClellin for example. I'm also willing to trade some of our other high-cost guys like Jennings, Tillman, Melton to get a high-quality DE via trade or move up in the draft to get one or just generate more cap for FA to get one. All three could work -- whatever it takes. It can be done, but you have to make the moves.
     
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    cannot trae jennings tillman melton b/c they are in the last year of their deals, melton was FTd and on IR so you cannot trade him. So those are no goes.

    you aren't getting cutler at 60mil, not happening, I said 50, but it's just not happening, it's nothing more then what I think he's worth, but teams like Jax, Minny, Ariz, Clev would pay well more then 50 for him, and Chicago is going to get that, 80 mil is a min contract for Cutler and he'll probably get more.

    11 guys need resigned, here are the ones that are legitimately going to get a shot, imo in order:
    Cutler
    Jennings
    Gould
    Melton
    Slauson
    Tillman
    JaAnderson
    DJWill


    I might be missing someone, that could be looked at as a "need" signing.
     
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    That's not what I want, either. I suffered for 50 years of crap QB play before Cutler. I have BEEN there longer than most guys on this board have been alive.

    But if you give him $100 million then -- for the rest of his career -- we will struggle with cap to afford to fill other needs. We have a good offense, and if we could build a grade-A defense, we could get to Superbowl with a veteran QB like the Farve did going the Vikings. I don't WANT to go that route to the Superbowl, but I'll take it if some desperate owner in Jacksonville or someplace offers him $100 million.
     
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