5 Free Agency Mistakes Bears Can't Afford To Make............

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  1. butkus3595

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    Now here is where I'm at with this...as much as I love Tillman...if I'm paying 6 mill or more a year for a corner, I want one who's still in his 20's. I recognize he played well last year, but you can fall off that cliff at any time, and I'd rather spend that money on a corner who is still in his prime than one who may or may not be driving off that road.
     
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    I think with a few of these guys, Wootton and Peanut and probably Melton as well, I think the plan is to let them shop themselves and see what kind of offers they get. To me that's a risky way to go about it especially with three core guys you really need to help resurrect that defense unless you're prepared to match or better those offers and that's not exactly been "Alligator Phil's" style so far.

    There are players in the draft who could potentially replace any one of those three but not all three in just this one draft. FA doesn't have an abundance of replacements for these guys either. I don't know of any CB whose any better than Peanut who wouldn't be looking for as much or more and I think they could find a DE or DT in FA but not both and they absolutely need at least one Safety.

    I think they have the cap room for two vet starters to come from FA and one to two from the draft so bringing back at least one of these guys if not two is pretty important from where I sit. If I'm not too far off base I think Melton will be looking for the biggest deal whereas the other two would probably be content with something fair over two years. In fact they might get both Wootton and Peanut for what Melton would be looking for in guarantees alone. Polian claims his bargaining power is reduced by his injury but vet 3 tech DTs like him are rare and he was a top 5 guy before his injury so I believe someone is gonna take that "leap of faith" as Emery called it but whether or not it's the Bears is yet to be seen.
     
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    I am a firm believer of trading/cuting/letting a player walk a year early rather than a year late.

    I love Peanut, but how much gas in left in his tank? What is what he has left worth?
     
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    As for the corners on the market, there are quite a few very good one's: Grimes, Rodgers-Cromartie, Davis, Verner, Shields, Munnerlyn, and Tarrell Brown. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a run at any one of those guys.
     
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    For that kind or money I'd have to agree with you but I'm not convinced it would take that much. What I'm getting a sense of is that he'd like to stay in Chicago (he has a lot of outside interests here and does a lot of community service work) but he wants a "fair" deal not some lowball offer and a "take it or leave it" treatment like Urlacher got.

    I think the article is both fair and correct in the way the author sees it too. When we lost Urlacher it was his leadership that was missed most, not his performance which I would freely admit had declined. But as I've said all along 70%-80% of his play coupled with 100% of his leadership would have made a difference last year. That's not a mistake Emery should repeat and that's all the article is saying not how much Peanut is worth.

    I'm looking at it this way. That secondary will have at least one new Safety if not two and we're still without a vet MLB. Even if DWill returns he's not a long time Bear with the influence that Peanut has on that team. My biggest criticism of Emery so far is that he hasn't taken that factor into consideration when he's been taking out his roster hatchet and at times he appears to be cutting off his nose to spite his face.

    There are two ways to go about this process of rebuilding that defense and if he's following the way the more successful teams do it then he should know he needs to do it on the fly by restocking it little by little each year not by tearing it down and starting over. Isn't it a little strange to you that he talks about getting younger but so far of the guys he bringing back most of them are over 30? I'm not complaining because I believe they were all good signings but Peanut is definitely a guy who should be included in that group because they have no one who can replace him on the roster and anyone they find in FA may cost as much or more in order to get a comparable player if there's even one available who is.

    I believe this is one of those times when Emery needs to be a little more flexible and ready to meet the competition if he needs to.
     
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    I tend to disagree with you when it comes to leadership on teams. To me length of time with a team really doesn't mean much in terms of being a leader in the locker room. Players will follow you if they respect your level of play. I've seen guys who were leaders of teams whose level of play deteriorated...guess what...their teams performance was effected by their level of play more than it was their leadership.

    As for players available...most of the guys on that list I just mentioned are better than Tillman right now and considerably younger. If I have to spend more money on one of them than I would Tillman I'm willing to do that.
     
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    Grimes is a smaller CB isn't he and I though he was re-signed and I know for a fact that Munnerlyn is only a NB and we just signed Hayden to compete with Frey there. Shields and Rodgers-Cromartie are possibilities and maybe Verner though. Two great advantages we have with Peanut are his size and the fact that he's a turnover machine and you can't really replace either of those two factors well with most of the guys out there either in FA or the draft. Peanut has created more career turnovers than any most other CB in the NFL and the guy plays his best when he's covering a big WR like Megatron and in the past Randy Moss. If we don't want him someone else will.
     
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    You aren't wrong but in this case he's not shown any evidence of slowing down. Before he was injured he was still playing at a Pro Bowl level and still shutting down guys like Megatron and still being his usual turnover machine. So in this case that saying is no more than a trite old adage that came from someone else who isn't looking at this specific situation and IMHO Benji that's all the needs to be looked at.

    This is not one of those "in general this is the way to do it" deals. This is a still good CB whose been the backbone of that secondary for years. a strong leader, great man in general, and nothing he's done so far on the field proves that he can't still play. If they offer him a two year deal for "fair money" I believe he'd take it in order to stay in Chicago and provided he stays healthy retire as a Bears after 2015.
     
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    You're right, Grimes was resigned...sorry. Munnerlyn is not a nickel back...he was Carolina's best corner last year, and he graded out as the best corner in football against the run. Verner is 25, QB's had a 55 QB rating when throwing his way, he was second in passes defensed with 14 and tied for third in interceptions with five and has great ball skills.

    Like I said...I have no problem resigning Tillman, but he's 33 going on 34, and he was injured a lot last year...sooner or later the wheels come off the track.
     
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    I am not sure he wants a two year deal, based on an earlier thread it sounds like he only really wants one more year.. but either way, I hope he comes back.

    In your mind, what would be a fair 1 year deal, and what would be a fair 2 year deal?
     

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