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  1. Bearsinhouston

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    OK. So then we disagree. Get in line, lol
    Edit : not stretching anything to prove my point because honestly I could not care less if you agree or not. There were various measurements and stats on the defense at least one was dead last. I think at least one more was second to last. I'm also sure some were better. The point being it dropped too far.
     
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    Well next time you pull out some smart ass line about life and then go on to attack Tucker have something more to back you up than "explain to me banking!" and "okay we disagree". There's nothing wrong with a discussion, it's a good way to expand on topics.. but if you don't have anything to contribute other than "I am right don't yell at me" then don't start it to begin with. Simple as that.
     
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    I'm not saying you have to agree, but I'd like to hear more from your side. Explain what I asked, expand on what you've said.. stuff like that. You say we shouldn't have dipped. I explain why I think the dip was reasonable. Now you explain why it wasn't with something other than Tucker sucks. I'm open to being wrong, or at the very least I'm open to people having different opinions. But I'd also like it for them to back it up with some evidence. Hope that's not too much to ask. I'm in no way attacking you, but I disagree so I'm going to tell you why. Not to prove it to you because you need to believe me and no one else, but so you understand why I disagree and you can then explain to me what you disagree with within my explanation if you still are against it. That's how discussions work.
     
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    Hey bud first off, I don't appreciate the smart ass comment. Second, are you Tuckers mother or just go around wiping his ass for him. The defense stunk. He was responsible. Deal with it.
    And as far as anything to contribute, when did you become the hall monitor. If you don't want to read my posts or think they don't contribute... Believe me when I tell you that few things in life matter to me less. Use the ignore feature.
    As of right now, I'm more than OK with your thinking I don't contribute. I must be doing something right if you don't like them
     
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    I'm not saying your posts don't contribute on the board, way to.. how did you phrase it.. put words in someone elses mouth. I'm saying if you're going to make accusations then don't be surprised when you get called out and someone wants to hear more than "He was responsible, deal with it." It's laughable if that's really your defense for your argument. I'm not saying you have to agree, all I was expecting was a little more substance in your reasons for not liking Tucker. Way to get ridiculously defensive though, chill out "bud".
     
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    I am with BiH on this one. Don't give me a list of injuries and point to that as the why.

    Look at the packers a few years ago. They lost half their team and still won the Super Bowl (yes they did not lose their QB but McCown stepped in and the Bears offense did not lose a step)
     
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    But the Packers had depth which Emery has not had a chance to do yet. I still think it is apples and oranges. Some of it can go on the coaches not developing the players and we replaced 2 of the coaches who did not meet these expectations. I think we are still feeling the JA effects of poor drafting.
     
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    Hopefully the 50 rookies in camp now can get us some of the depth we need over and above a couple of starters.
     
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    It was not being defensive
    I didn't like your tone and frankly decided I don't like you. I'm a guy that says what's on his mind.
    I don't know Tucker so I have no idea if I like him or not. I just know that the defense was his responsibility and it played poorly under him.
    People did not seem to know what coverage they were in. Sometimes different players were in different coverages
    That happened more than once so I consider it a coaching issue. Players were thrown in but were not getting better. More than one player. And it was systemic. No pass rush, secondary not making their stops. Not able to stop the run. Lb not doing well.
    And they seemed to trend down even as the season went on. We were not on the same page coverage wise on the GB game. That was our last game and it cost us. It had happened before and was still happening even in our last game.
    The amount of drop off was across the board and not getting better. Peppers was not putting forth any effort. Might have been on him or might be the locker room tone. The onlybpeople I saw busting their butts were Tillman and Briggs before he got injured. I saw no fire out there.
    Those all make me look at coaches. Coaches were in fact a part because some were replaced. So then the question becomes did they get them all? It tool them 2 weeks to decide they did so it is not cut and dry
    Plus Tucker was a first year coach with us that had many key players with injuries. It's hard to let a guy go under those circumstances. So it makes you wonder if it's truly fixed or not. But hopefully it is and the d will play well. In my mind they did not play like a team with injuries that was trying to hold it together. They played more like they were in dissaray with the communications issues. There bottom or close to bottom rankings support that they did not play well. I don't think anyone including yourself is saying otherwise. It's a matter accountability and wondering if it is fixed. We all have different feelings on it and I certainly may be wrong. Just how I feel about it.
     
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    Yeah. It's very rarely just one cause when things don't work out. Usually you have to peel the onion.
     
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