53 Man Roster Updates and Predictions

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    Obviously this is a dated post (it still includes Eric Weems and Zach Miller) but it serves as a basis for some continued discussion of roster spots. As of August 11th this was Michael Wright's roster assessment, what are your thoughts about the Bear's 53 man roster up to this point (more than half way through the pre-season). I've put my adjustments next to his in red.

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    Chicago Bears' projected roster


    August, 11, 2014
    By Michael C. Wright | ESPNChicago.com

    QUARTERBACKS (3) (2)

    RUNNING BACKS (4)
    RECEIVERS (6)

    TIGHT ENDS (2)

    OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (10)
    DEFENSIVE LINE (10)
    LINEBACKERS (6)

    CORNERBACKS (5)
    SAFETIES (4) (5)

    SPECIALISTS (4)
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    Draughn is 2nd behind Forte right now.
    Bass makes this team over Washington.
    They'll keep three TE's somehow
    Sean makes the team at LB, probably at the expense of Jones
    If Wilson isn't starting he's not on the team; so 4 S's and 3 TE's.
    C Williams will make the team as a WR, the team has stated they will no longer have a dedicated return man only, but you only have 5 active so it works.
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    Alright. Nice to see you have CornWash at the 5th DE spot. I think that's where we are at the moment, but I also believe that he MUST outperform Bass and Lane in the final two preseason games to secure the spot. I am more worried about Lane than Bass, though.

    I like your other picks, too. If Holmes can show anything, he may get the last WR spot. It's up for grabs.
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    This is a pretty good Chicago Tribune overview of the current roster battles. I feel like it's suited to this thread.
    Bears roster firming up but questions remain
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    By Rich Campbellcontact the reporter

    The Bears' final 53-man roster has begun to crystallize after 14 training camp practices and two exhibition games. Players have two exhibitions and five full practices remaining to impress general manager Phil Emery, coach Marc Trestman and Trestman's staff. But already the roster puzzle pieces are taking shape.

    With the Aug. 30 cut-down deadline looming, here's an assessment of the roster position-by-position, examining key developments and pondering important questions that remain.

    Offense
    Quarterbacks
    On roster:
    4
    Projected: 2 or 3
    Lock: Jay Cutler
    On the bubble: Jordan Palmer, Jimmy Clausen, David Fales
    Key developments: Clausen caught up to Palmer in the backup competition despite not signing with the Bears until June 5. His arm is stronger than Palmer's, and he's more decisive. However, neither has separated himself in exhibition action. Fales, the sixth-round rookie, got the fewest reps in training camp and clearly is fourth on the depth chart.
    Remaining questions: Clausen and Palmer could strengthen their case in the last two games, both of which are on the road. Fales, on one hand, seems to be a good bet to make the team because the Bears invested a draft pick in him. However, they could try to stash him on the practice squad if they believe he would clear waivers and if they don't want to use a roster spot on a quarterback who won't play.

    Running backs
    On roster:
    7
    Projected: 4
    Locks: Matt Forte, Ka'Deem Carey
    Good bet: FB Tony Fiammetta
    On the bubble: Shaun Draughn, Michael Ford
    Practice squad candidates: Jordan Lynch, Senorise Perry
    Key developments: Draughn and fourth-rounder rookie Carey are ahead of Ford in the backup competition, Trestman said Friday. Trestman praised Draughn's catching ability and positioning. The clock has struck midnight on Lynch's Cinderella story. Reality is he needs to continue developing after converting from a college quarterback.
    Remaining questions: Whether Draughn or Carey backs up Forte likely will come down to upcoming performances against the Seahawks and Browns. Ford must excel on special teams and be more consistent executing his assignments to salvage a spot.

    Wide receivers
    On roster:
    12
    Projected: 5 or 6
    Locks: Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery
    Good bet: Marquess Wilson
    On the bubble: Santonio Holmes, Josh Morgan, Josh Bellamy, Micheal Spurlock, Chris Williams
    Practice squad candidates: Greg Herd, Dale Moss, Kofi Hughes
    Camp depth: Armanti Edwards
    Locks: Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery
    Key developments: Wilson’s broken collarbone and the addition of Holmes on Saturday highlight a lack of quality depth. Eric Weems got the first shot at replacing Wilson as the third receiver, but Cutler never connected consistently with him and he was cut Saturday. Bellamy and Spurlock got extended looks with the second string in camp. Morgan dropped a few passes in practice but has been steady in games. Williams has been out for a week since straining his right hamstring in the Aug. 8 exhibition.
    Remaining questions: The Bears still haven’t publicized how long Wilson’s recovery will take, but he would require a spot on the 53-man roster in almost every realistic scenario. Williams would make the team by being explosive and sure-handed as a kickoff and punt returner, but Trestman on Friday didn’t know his expected return date. Holmes, 30, underperformed with the Jets the last two seasons, as left foot and right hamstring injuries took their toll. The Bears will see what he has left. Weems’ release creates an opportunity for a receiver who can cover kicks.

    Tight ends
    On roster:
    4
    Projected: 2 or 3
    Roster lock: Martellus Bennett
    On the bubble: Matthew Mulligan, Dante Rosario
    Camp depth: Jeron Mastrud
    Key developments: Zach Miller's season-ending left foot injury takes one decision off coaches' to-do list. Rosario has played with the first string on all four special teams units. Mulligan has impressed coaches with his blocking, but he was flagged for holding against the Eagles.
    Remaining questions: The Bears kept three tight ends at final cuts last year but carried only two for much of the season. They're hoping Mulligan can be a good pass catcher in addition to his blocking. He had a team-high four catches against the Jaguars. Rosario's special teams value is essential to his case.

    Offensive line
    On roster:
    16
    Projected: 9
    Locks: Jermon Bushrod, Matt Slauson, Roberto Garza, Kyle Long, Jordan Mills
    Good bet: Brian de la Puente
    On the bubble: Eben Britton, Michael Ola, Charles Leno Jr., Taylor Boggs, James Brown
    Camp depth: Joe Long, Ryan Groy, Dylan Gandy, Dennis Roland, Robert Turner
    Key developments: Britton, the sixth lineman last season, has been sidelined since he strained his left hamstring July 30. His injury and Mills' absence with a sore left foot enabled Ola to start at right tackle in the first two exhibitions. De la Puente is out at least another week with a sprained medial collateral ligament in his left knee. Leno, a seventh-round rookie, has shown athleticism as a developmental prospect.
    Remaining questions: Tough decisions loom because of this group's continuity. Eight of nine linemen from last year are on the roster. Britton was a good bet for a roster spot until he got hurt, but coaches at least know what he's capable of. Ola's versatility at guard and tackle could squeeze Brown out of a roster spot if Ola is consistent with his footwork. Boggs must take advantage of de la Puente's absence.

    Defense

    Defensive line
    On roster:
    15
    Projected: 9 or 10
    Locks: Jared Allen, Lamarr Houston, Willie Young, Jeremiah Ratliff, Stephen Paea, Ego Ferguson, Will Sutton
    Good bet: Trevor Scott
    On the bubble: Austen Lane, David Bass, Nate Collins, Cornelius Washington
    Practice squad candidates: Tracy Robertson, Brandon Dunn, Lee Pegues
    Key developments: Scott has positioned himself to make the team by being effective on the edge against the run and pass. He uses his hands well and can shed blocks. Collins flashed at the start of camp, demonstrating power in one-on-one pass blocking drills in his return from a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. But he otherwise had a quiet camp.
    Remaining questions: This is one of the most intriguing numbers games within the whole roster puzzle. The Bears, still scarred by last season's attrition, would like to keep 10. Collins could be the fifth tackle if he recaptured his form from early in camp. Bass seems to have a higher ceiling in his second season than the veteran Lane, but Lane has been ahead of Bass on the depth chart.

    Linebackers
    On roster:
    9
    Projected: 6 or 7
    Locks: Lance Briggs, D.J. Williams, Jon Bostic, Shea McClellin
    Good bet: Khaseem Greene
    On the bubble: Jordan Senn, Christian Jones
    Practice squad candidate: DeDe Lattimore
    Camp depth: Jerry Franklin

    Key developments: Williams' ability to stop the run has proven to be invaluable, especially given the inexperience of McClellin and Bostic. Coaches are optimistic about McClellin's development as he learns the position and have taken a long view of his prospects. Jones might be the best athlete in the group, but Greene and Senn are more valuable on special teams.
    Remaining questions: Special teams ability will factor heavily into the final roster decisions. Greene and Senn each play on all four units, and Trestman has said he is searching for eight such players. Coaches have emphasized the mental challenges Jones faces in getting acclimated to the NFL. He's a prime practice squad candidate, but it's easy to see why the Bears would be reluctant to risk losing him on waivers.

    Cornerbacks
    On roster:
    10
    Projected: 6
    Locks: Tim Jennings, Charles Tillman, Kyle Fuller, Kelvin Hayden
    Good bet: Sherrick McManis
    On the bubble: Isaiah Frey
    Practice squad candidates: C.J. Wilson, Demontre Hurst, Al Louis-Jean, Derricus Purdy
    Key developments: McManis had an excellent camp and should make the team barring an unforeseen development. His agility and ability to play the ball help make this one of the Bears' deepest positions. He also is a reliable special teams player, which the Bears need. Frey has been sidelined since he strained his right hamstring Aug. 4.
    Remaining questions: Frey's injury casts his roster hopes in doubt. Before getting hurt, he was playing the ball more effectively than he did last season during extensive playing time in the slot. He should make the team if healthy. If not, one of several capable prospects could steal his spot.

    Safeties
    On roster:
    8
    Projected: 4 or 5
    Locks: Ryan Mundy, Brock Vereen
    Good bet: Chris Conte, Danny McCray
    On the bubble: Adrian Wilson, Craig Steltz
    Camp depth: M.D. Jennings, Marcus Trice
    Key developments: Coaches have rotated safeties in practice, but Mundy consistently has played with the first string. McCray started the first two exhibitions. Conte, the incumbent starting free safety, came off the physically unable to perform list (right shoulder) Aug. 11. Wilson, the 34-year-old five-time Pro Bowler, has played faster as he has learned the defense.
    Remaining questions: Conte's knowledge of the defense was apparent immediately in how fast he ran to his assignments in practice. His return to game action is imminent, and he's the favorite to win the starting job alongside Mundy. Special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis values McCray, and it would be surprising for a defensive veteran to start the first two exhibitions and get cut. Steltz is another reliable special teamer, and the Bears need all of those they can get. But he missed the offseason program and first 11 camp practices with a groin injury.

    Specialists
    On roster:
    5
    Projected: 3
    Locks: K Robbie Gould, P Pat O'Donnell
    On the bubble: LS Chad Rempel, LS Brandon Hartson
    Camp depth: P Tress Way
    Key developments: O'Donnell, the sixth-round pick, has been inconsistent, but he has been more consistent than Way. O'Donnell's booming leg is obvious, and therein lies his upside.
    Remaining questions: Way has been too inconsistent with distance and hang time to beat out the punter the Bears drafted. Rempel and Hartson continue to compete with no margin for error. It wouldn't be surprising if the Bears signed a long snapper another team cut later this month.

    Tribune reporters Brad Biggs and Dan Wiederer contributed.
    rcampbell@tribune.com
    Twitter @Rich_Campbell
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    I feel that way to, but I'm starting to second guess it. Wilson's received a lot of play time (probably more than any other safety on the team). From Wilson's own mouth he's been the one asking to stay in later and later in games to get the reps. Chances are he's doing that for two reasons. 1. He wants to force the Bears to see what he can do and how he's developed. 2. He is building a post injury resume for other teams in case he's waived. If he gets waived he'll get picked up, but probably not as an immediate starter. I imagine he'll be backing up someone, at least for a while as he picks up the system of the team he goes to. If that's the case, and he would be a backup elsewhere, why wouldn't he stay with the Bears where he can serve as a backup and fill in if/when someone either gets injured OR someone under performs.

    I also see him as a specialist or a safety blanket in the event the run game doesn't pick up. He's like a fourth linebacker on the field and can def. contribute in the run game. Safety is a weak spot on the team. Emery brought in a lot of guys to compete, and I do think the talent got better at the position (slightly) but I also think this is one of the weakest links on the team, maybe more so than linebacker. I would imagine they want to keep their options open at the position.
    I'm thinking he makes the team and we hold 5 safeties.
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    I updated my best guess earlier today. Pretty close to above. Not sure about 5 safeties, we would have to cut into either QB, TE, or DL which I have below broken out. I see Ola battling it out with Turner and Roland as they are new to Bears but Vets for the Final OL spot. Read several negatives on both Boggs and Long so believe they will be gone.
    Yellow I believe makes the team, muave is still battling to make the team, and the grey is PS candidates.
    I have no clue who the Long Snapper will be I just picked one

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    Love this table. I'm gonna get on making one so I can update it easily.

    I don't see them keeping three quarterbacks. The competition they are having at QB right now suggests to me there's one spot available (either Clausen or Palmer). I'm going with Clausen because he's the better QB but I could see Trestman sticking with Palmer because he knows the system and he fits Trestman's cerebral vision of the position. He's what a lot of people refer to as a game manager.

    Safety seems to be a position, in my opinion, that's higher need than QB. We don't have a clear cut starter and that creates a need for depth so that the coaching staff can make adjustments if things aren't working to plan in the reg. season.
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    I agree with your adjustments, no way they cut Adrian Wilson, he's played well and provides leadership on the field and off. Plus the current Defensive Captains, Briggs and Tillman really like him. They'll keep 5 at safety. I also believe they keep Dante Rosario for depth at TE. With the WR situation, I like Spurlock, just depends how Santonio looks in the next 2 pre-season games.
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    I see Draughn being more a change of pace back and Carey a power back. Probably be more situational, but will be interesting who spells Forte.
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    Y'know after game 1 of pre season I had Miller penciled in as our 2 TE set.

    And you want me to predict whats going to happen from here on out?

    Lets just play the pre season games and see whos left standing.
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    I am guessing we all had Miller penciled in, hopefully the injury bug has come and gone.
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    My best guess/hope barring new acquisitions, new injuries, or players not recovering who are expected to:

    QB (2)
    Keep only 2-Cutler and Clausen. Palmer will become the backup "speed dial" option since he's unlikely to be signed by anyone else. Fales is a PS candidate and a roster spot shouldn't be wasted on him since no way he's ready to be even a #2 at this point. If he doesn't clear waivers or gets signed away during the season, so be it and no loss. Notice how he didn't get a single snap vs Jacksonville. That's because he isn't a viable NFL QB in any capacity right now.

    RB/FB (4)
    Forte and Fiametta are locks with Carey a near lock due to recent draft status. Draughn is in the lead for the last spot and prob will be MF's primary backup. Perry, Lynch, and Ford are basically battling to be PS options and that's the order of like hood I'd put them in. Ford has had a horrible July/August so he's a goner IMO.

    TE (3)
    Bennett is a lock and Rosario a near-lock now that Miller is out of the picture. Mulligan and Mastroud are fighting for the 3rd spot and Mully is ahead.

    OL (9)
    Last years starting 5, DLP, and Britton are locks. Ola looks like he's securing the 8th spot especially since he can play multiple line positions. That leaves the last opening up for grabs between Brown, Leno, and maybe Groy. Boggs and JLong are good riddance and the rest are camp fodder IMO. One or two of the cuts (Leno? Groy?) are PS possibilities.

    WR (6)
    Marshall, Jeffery, and MWilson are locks and I see Morgan and Williams as near-locks. Holmes should win the 6th spot if A) he demonstrates gas left in the tank, B) isn't an attitude problem, and C) the ST needs gets filled somehow. The latter is a huge wildcard right now as we need another returner somewhere. Losing Hixon in the spring is starting to sting because he was that crossover depth KR/PR/WR guy we are lacking right now.

    DL (10)
    Allen, Houston, Young, Paea, Sutton, Ferguson, and Ratliff are locks. I want Collins as the 5th DT even if he's still working his way back to 100% as he's versatile enough to play 3t and NT. That leaves Bass and Corny fighting for the last roster spot. Lane should be cut. No one else has a prayer.

    LB (6)
    Briggs, DJW, Bostic, and Shea are in. Greene looks improved and he's a near-lock. Senn and CJones are fighting for the last spot unless they keep 7. Lattiimore is a PS candidate.

    CB (5)
    This is an easy call as Tillman, Jennings, Fuller, and Hayden are locks and McMannis has already won the last position. Frey is IR'd or cut and Hurst & Louis-Jean are PS options. Maybe they keep a 6th CB if they go with just 4 Safeties but I see 5/5 as more likely.

    S (5)
    Mundy, Vereen, and Conte are in (feel free to laugh if you're an irrational Conte-hater but he's our best pure FS right now). McCray is likely to make it for ST duty. AWilson is the wildcard. If he doesn't make it (and I think he will), then Steltz survives yet again by a fingernail. Most likely Steltz and MDJ hit the road.
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    Thats what pre seasons all about ... making predictions of a 90 member crew is like pissing in the wind.

    Miller and Weems man ... both gone. Big hopes. Maybe we get Miller back.

    We better get ready for Seattle ... dem boyz aint fuckin around.

    They want our BEARS HEAD mounted on a pike. We cant let that happen.
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    I think the preseason is all about making those assessments and predictions, trying to get a sense of where the players are at and who our best candidates are. As a fan, I use the preseason to familiarize myself with the players and, of equal importance, where the coaching staff is. By making roster predictions I'm able to compare and contrast the coaches' choices with my own both to calibrate (so I have a better understanding of why someone might be selected over someone else) and to critique direction.

    I also think it's fun. Football is one of my interests and analyzing it is another. Constructing a roster lets me engage and enjoy football during the preseason.
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    I feel the same way, which is why I don't bother, but I think is definitely a fun speculation and a very valid thing to do. I mean, if you've got the time, why the hell not? Kind of like the draft (but with MUCH better odds to be right). Even if you are wrong... so what?
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    Bellyiot,

    Needless to say this game could set the tempo of the season for us ...

    all we have to do is walk with a WIN ... or a less then embaressing loss.

    Weve played both preseasom teams tight so far ...

    just enuff of what it took to beat them.

    If it does come to a loss ... it cant be a blowout.

    This is where PRIDE steps up at.

    WHOS the better team ? I say its us.
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    No Trevor Scott? After watching him play in TC and PS I think he deserves a roster spot.
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    Your 53 man roster as predicted by The Benjamjn

    Offense

    Quarterbacks

    Jay Cutler
    Jimmy Clausen,

    Running backs

    Matt Forte
    Ka'Deem Carey
    Shaun Draughn
    FB Tony Fiammetta

    Wide receivers

    Brandon Marshall
    Alshon Jeffery
    Marquess Wilson
    Santonio Holmes
    Josh Morgan
    Chris Williams

    Tight ends

    Martellus Bennett
    Matthew Mulligan

    Offensive line

    Jermon Bushrod
    Matt Slauson
    Roberto Garza
    Kyle Long
    Jordan Mills
    Brian de la Puente
    Eben Britton
    Michael Ola
    Taylor Boggs
    James Brown


    Defense

    Defensive line

    Jared Allen
    Lamarr Houston
    Willie Young
    Jeremiah Ratliff
    Stephen Paea
    Ego Ferguson
    Will Sutton
    Trevor Scott
    David Bass
    Cornelius Washington

    Linebackers

    Lance Briggs
    D.J. Williams
    Jon Bostic
    Shea McClellin
    Khaseem Greene
    Christian Jones

    Cornerbacks
    Tim Jennings
    Charles Tillman
    Kyle Fuller
    Kelvin Hayden
    Sherrick McManis

    Safeties
    Ryan Mundy
    Brock Vereen
    Chris Conte
    Danny McCray
    Adrian Wilson

    Specialists
    K Robbie Gould
    P Pat O'Donnell
    LS Chad Rempel
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    QB: (2) Cutler, Clausen, 50/50 on Palmer as a 3rd QB.

    RB/FB: (4) Forte, Draughn, Carey, Fiametta

    TE: (3) Bennett, Mulligan, Rosario

    WR: (5) Marshall, Jeffery, Morgan, Holmes, CWill

    OT: (4) Bushrod, Mills, Roland, Ola

    OG: (4) Slauson, Long, Britton, De la Puente

    OC: (1) Garza

    DE: (4) Allen, Houston, Young, Scott, 50/50 on either Bass or Washington

    DT: (5) Ratliff, Paea, Collins, Sutton, Ferguson

    LB: (6) Briggs, DWill, Bostic, McClellin, Greene, Jones

    S: (5) Conte, Mundy, Wilson, Vereen, McCray

    CB: (5) Tillman, Jennings, Fuller, McManis, Hayden

    P: (1) O'Donnell

    PK: (1) Gould

    LS: (1) Hartson

    That's 51 with 2 spots open for Palmer and Bass or Washington
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    You are right, my bad. I meant to list Scott as a "near-lock" (included him mentally in the 9 DLs I think/should make the final 53). Thanks for pointing out the oversight. I definitely think Scott has nailed down the 4th DE spot.
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