Adrian MacPherson.

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    Yeah. But Warner caught the scouts eye when he was packing groceries from six aisles over by pitching them into the bags until they were full. :)
     
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    So that's what happened to my eggs . . .
     
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    MacPherson is not in the NFL, so he stinks. Got it. Warner was found packing groceries, but he became a good QB. Is there any other player who is doing well who was not playing football before he was signed? Does the name Robbie Gould sound familiar? He was working construction when we found him. He's doing okay, isn't he? There's this thing called arena football. The Lions signed a guy named Mike Furrey from that league. He did all right in his NFL career.

    Just what difference is there if he's playing football in a different league? It's still football and the guy is still an athlete. I give credit to Emery for thinking outside the box. At least he isn't continually displaying an incessantly negative, demeaning attitude.
     
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    Since McPherson is now 30, his chances are poor, despite having spent five years in Montreal with Trestman. However, a McPherson-like QB could be a useful addition. McPherson is a big dude who has a decent arm coupled with great mobility and is always a threat to run. When he does run, he's more often the hammer than the nail. Probably not the best qualifications for a starter, but as a perennial backup?

    There's a trend these days in the CFL to expand the role of backup QBs so they do more than just QB sneaks with a yard to go. They have a package of plays designed for them which gets them into pretty well every game.

    The approach has numerous benefits:

    * trains the backup in meaningful, real game situations so he can take over seamlessly if the starter goes down,
    * since everyone is used to the backup making regular appearances, he can be put in for a struggling starter without publicly bruising egos
    * the starter has the opportunity to watch the D operate from the sidelines, collect his wits, and often returns performing more effectively
    * in design QB running plays, the backup QB absorbs the punishment, not the starter
    * having such a perennial backup can extend the life of a high mileage starter (e.g. Calvillo)
    * the backup, having started his career tagged as "not starter material" could develop into a better QB and become the starter simply because of the reps and coaching he would receive
    * if the two QBs have very different styles, it can make the D's life miserable as they have to adjust back and forth, going from defending a pocket passer to a scrambler for example

    The downside of course, is that the backup isn't as skilled as the starter so when he's in, production may suffer, however this can be mitigated if he has the right package of plays to work to his strengths.

    Using the Detroit game as example, when Cutler started to go downhill put the scrambling backup in with the orders to "go through two reads, and if no one is open after three seconds, run like hell." Run this in a high tempo offence and after a series or two of the D chasing this guy all over the field, put Cutler back in to face a more fatigued, subdued Suh and company. During that time he would have the opportunity to find where he misplaced his wits.

    Since Trestman stays in contact with his CFL friends, I'd expect him to be conversant with these developments. If the Bears can find a suitable backup QB, it's a possibility that Trestman may try this.
     
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    yes another 30 year old never was, that is exactly what the Bears need as their backup/developmental guy....sigh.

    nothing against the Canadian football league, but how many qb's in the last 30 years have come through the NFL and made it that didn't come from the CFL, countless? now how many have, 3, 4? It's not exactly a ripe picking ground for NFL teams looking for a qb.
     
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    QB's were usually shorter in the CFL , but now shorter QB's are showing up in the NFL. Flutie would be a starter today if he was starting out. He would have a SB ring right now if buffalo's management did not screw that up. But right now the CFL has never has such a great crop of young back-ups, at one point it was hard to find 8 good starters. Things are changing up here and now with a new TV deal with alot more money it will even get better.
     
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    outside of Brees, Vick(6 foot), Russell Wilson is the only qb under 6 foot(5'11"). Most are 6'4" or taller, and it's getting more towards 6'5' on an average, NFL qb's are not getting smaller.
     
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    There is 2, probably more then before and this is something that people are just starting to see.
     
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    Really? 2 out of 32, and no there is not more, I looked at all 32 starters. And really of the 3 I mentioned those are old guard, both in 2001. The trend is going away from small QB's, hell RGIII is 6'2" and is a runner, Keap is 6'4 or taller he is a mobile running qb, Cam newton is 6'5 and is a runner. So of the "small" running Qb's are even getting bigger. Only Rus Will is under 6'0" of the young running qb's.
     
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