Am I the ONLY Bears fan who STRONGLY feels that

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  1. BradMustersGhost

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    Ditka was vastly overrated? One of my PRIMARY pet peeves about Bears fans is the "Cult of Ditka" which they (with the help of SNL and the national media) have cultivated. You know, "We all love Da Coach...Da Coach is God, blah blah blah." Ditka was an outstanding, hard-nosed player who played the game the right way. As a player, he was A CLASSIC Bear in every way....but as a coach?! As a coach AND evaluator of talent, he is VASTLY overrated. HE is the main reason why we failed to so much as MAKE another Super Bowl in the mid-80's. He was ROUTINELY outcoached in the playoffs by Joe Gibbs (losing in back to back years, AT HOME, to the Redskins), Bill Walsh (getting BLOWN OUT, once again AT HOME, by a 10-6 49ers team in the 1988 NFC title game), and Bill Parcells (getting humiliated in the 1990 NFC Divisional Playoff game). The ONLY time he was able to beat ALL 3 coaches (Walsh and Gibbs in the regular season, and Parcells in the playoffs)? yep, you guessed it...1985, when he had a guy named Buddy Ryan serving as a de facto Co-Head Coach (just ask the guys on the defense whom they considered to be their "primary coach", and they will tell you Buddy). Was Ditka a good coach? Sure, I guess (even if his act undeniably wore thin with the players as the years wore on), but he was NO WHERE NEAR the coach our primary NFC rivals had during the 80's. I just don't understand why so many Bears fans consistently overrate Ditka as a coach. Once Buddy left, he didn't do squat on his own. Let's also remember that Gibbs won Super Bowls with Doug Williams and Mark Rypien, and Parcells won in 1990 with Jeff Hostetler (hardly HOF-caliber QBs), so please don't try to blame McMahon's injuries for Ditka's postseason flameouts. After all, McMahon started both the 1987 loss to Washington and the 1988 NFC title game against San Fran. I won't even bring up his complete failure with New Orleans when he returned to coaching in 1997.

    Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to get ya'll's opinions on Ditka the coach. Do you think I am dead wrong, or do you agree with what I have typed? Please let me know. We have some really knowledgeable people on this board, so I am curious.

    P.S. I also think Ditka ceased being a flesh-and-blood man, and basically became an egomaniacal, cartoonish pitchman after Super Bowl XX (Mike Ditka gave way to "Da Coach"), but I will save that for another day.
     
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    As an actual Coach? Sure. But his fame in Chicago goes well beyond his mere coaching ability.
     
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    The 1985 Bears had the weakest schedule of all NFL teams.
     
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    We all know that, but we still love him because he is Ditka. There is not much more to say.
     
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    Nobody won a SB before nor after him at this point in time. That's all that matters. Bear Down.
     
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    Ditka was no genius with the x's and o's, but he had other qualities. I believe that -- over time -- the character of the head coach is infused into the team. The way Ditka played as a Bear is reflected in the way his players performed -- hard-nosed, relentless, intimidating. Anybody who didn't play that way got his ass kicked. I haven't seen any Bears coach since Ditka who had that quality.
     
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    I have always believed this. I don't think Ditka was a great coach, but he did coach the only Bears team ever to win a Super Bowl. Like Bears-40 said, I figure that counts for something.
     
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    with all due respect, fellas, I would argue that the defense acquired its aggressive attitude, hard-nosed, tough as nails attitude from Buddy Ryan, not Ditka.
     
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    I am far from a Ditka on a personal bases I dislike guy greatly, but I still have to respect him as a great player.
     
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    But that would discount an OL that was arguably 1 of the toughest, nastiest ones you could find across time. Throw in the likes of Sweetness, Jimmy Mac, Suhey, etc. & you have a mirror of that D.
     
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