Analysts Predict Bears 1st Round Pick...............

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    I know many believe Donald is the only choice that will make them happy, and it may happen. I am hopeful that the combination of players make us better which I tried to make the point previously by saying.

    I am not against Donald but have my concerns, the point is are you better off with Donald and whoever, vs (Pryor, Dix,Dennard, or Mosley ) in rd 1 and taking DT later. Having Dennard in place for next yr when Peanut is gone and let him play nickel this year. Maybe FS even, or maybe he beats out Peanut and starts. If Peanut gets injured Dennard would look pretty good. Same story for Mosley with DJ, Bostic and McC. Safety vs DT been well documented. Jimmy Ward may not be on the board to bank on for rd 2. Is getting Donald worth the lower value you will receive at rd 2 for another position when so many DT's on board that can prob, start. (EGO Ferguson, Kelcy Quarles, Anthony Johnson, Will Sutton, Daquan Jones, etc.) Most if not all will be on the board in rd 2 and several in rd 3. I am not against Donald in RD 1 and if the plan is 2 DT's as I have read in various places then Donald makes more sense. The drop in talent is just so much larger at some of the other positions of need we have (ILB, S, DE)

    I would love to see Donald and Quarles, it would definetely fix the DT position for years to come and with Peae a FA next yr and Ratliff on 2 yr deal it could happen. Just not sure I want Conte and Mundy starting in the S positions. Maybe Ed Reynolds FS from Sanford is still avail. in Rd 3 . Very exciting and interesting options, thats my only point.
     
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    in RD 1 I would be surprised, RD 2 maybe, and RD 3 offense would not be surprised if he had a TE, QB, or RB or OT. I would like Ebren but would rather have a solid D starter. I like the added complexity the offense would bring with a two TE set but not sure it is worth the RD 1 pick.
     
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    Emery likes trying to look like the smartest person in the room by getting players he thinks are first round picks that might not be in other GMs minds

    Shea (wrong)
    Long (right)

    Getting these players two years in a row, I have no reason to think he won't find another "hidden gem". At the same time finding a "hidden gem" at the end of the first is a lot lesser gamble than in the first half of the first.
     
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    Yeah Benj, I agree emery may very well have his eye on a guy that nobody knows. At the same time, we are drafting a bit higher than the previous two years and it's possible Emerys no one guy was gone the past two years and Shea and Long were his ace up the sleve. Like others I have been looking for that "reach" guy emery may pull but I'm not sure I see a late first "expert" mock guy that we make take. That being said nothing will shock me this year. Pryor is the only guy that people may conciser a reach at 14 but IMO I think it's a toss up between him and CD.

    Emery has proven to have balls of steel so all we can really do is speculate to pass the time and then enjoy the ride.
     
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    I'm fine with Emery's first pick as long as it's the best DL/DB/LB available. Drafting another position at #14 would be a giant mistake imo.
     
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    Who are the majority of these guys? At fist glance, I thought Sports Illustrated had the Bears taking Don Banks. hillbillyfh8.gif
     
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    A TE or a CB over a DT or a Safety? Mr. Opposite or not unless he somehow pulls a top notch Safety and 3 tech DT out of the air of FA (and I don't see any out there period let alone at "his price") that would be foolish. I'll just keep hammering on the same point here again.

    Unless you're a Super Bowl team with a ton of young talent spending a high 1st round pick on any position other than one of "need" defined by "where you need a starter", or at least a player with the potential to start day one, then IMHO you just wasted that pick. Do that often enough and leave key position unfilled or under filled and you lose games and your job. One thing Phil Emery isn't is stupid and I'm sure he isn't bucking for unemployment.

    Shorty why would he spend a high 1st round pick on a TE to play backup to Bennett who he already has mucho dolores invested in or a CB who he also has serious money invested in and won't play unless either Jennings or Peanut go down with serious injuries? If he was set with dependable starters everywhere else I might agree that Ebron at least may be worth that high a pick and Gilbert as well but may never drop that far and maybe not Ebron either.

    With huge needs at both DT and FS to me the surprise pick would be Mosley at LB. That's the one position where we don't have an immediate need but it takes a year to learn a defense well enough to run it from the MLB spot. With the anticipation that Williams is only good for one more year and the though that neither Bostic or McClellin are best suited to play MLB in a 4-3 Mosley wouldn't meet and immediate need but he still might play some so it wouldn't be an off the wall pick.

    I might see him doing it over drafting a FS since he has Conte trying to make up for a very bad year and there are also 2nd and 3rd round prospects who are good players but only if, for instance, Donald isn't still there. I'm less certain how they feel about Jernigan since he and Paea are somewhat alike and if he drafts Mosley there are a few other DTs that will go in rounds 2 or 3 he may like as well. I hadn't thought as much about Mosley before but with Emery he just might surprise us with him.
     
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    After a spending a night considering this again actually Mosley could be the Phil Emery surprise pick instead of a DT. He certainly rates that high and other than maybe Aaron Donald if you want the BPA available at #14 I'd take him over either of the Safeties or Jernigan. I think it would far tougher to find a LB with his talent farther down in this draft than to find acceptable Safeties and DTs.

    MLB is one of those positions that may take a year to settle into because of the need to learn the entire defensive scheme and run it as the QB of the defense. Of course that would be another big factor. Does Mosley have the ability to do that or is he a superb player whose a little short on leadership skills. Anyway, I've changed my focus a bit to put Mosley higher in the mix and at least above Jernigan. As much as some have mocked him to the Bears I'm still not sure he isn't just duplicating players we already have.
     
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    Being able to have a 2 TE set with two legitimate weapons and blockers. The best way to beat a 3-4 def. such as the Packers is a 2 TE set. So if you do not want to beat the Packers No NEED.

    If DJ gets hurt again same position as last yr. Mosley the only sure fire MLB starter day 1 in the draft. Still have DT starter options in RD 2 and Rd 3. Rd 2 pick may not be as good as Donald but still starting Rotation.

    Really comes down to a the combined value of all. One player does not make the team, it takes them all working as a cohesive unit as we saw with Seattle. My comments would be why I would consider it. Not saying I would go that way as I believe Defense in RD 1 is foregone conclusion and if somebody of great value falls unexpectedly increases the potential trade offers. As long as the competition does not know what you will do it makes them play honest as well, thus better trade offers.
     
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    Odd that the 2nd day of spring is when hell froze over and Soul and I agree on something. I've been saying MLB and Mosley makes since for awhile, but backed off to Safety after the DJ signing. The Inj to Briggs makes him more viable again though.
     
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