Another Clue Indicating Bears Will Do Some Two-Gapping On Defense

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    MP, most talked of a hybrid before a straight 3-4. Many said they didn't have the personnel to run a hybrid and wouldn't. All the moves they made since Emery was here screamed multi facet D, but that wasn't happening w/Lovie, and last year Tucker was asked to keep everything the same, but the drafts and FA moves have all been about this change. It was only a matter of time.

    I never saw them going straight 3-4 either, but I did think they could run SOME 3-4 depending on who they went w/in the drafts and FA.
     
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    Been no mention of any 3-4 alignments out of camp. I was hoping to see some looks in a 3-4. Before the draft Emery pretty much put the 3-4 to bed stating we would remain a 4-3 base, the Hybrid has always been spoken just not sure how the Bears would do it. The 2-gap was the first indication as stated in the article. I am still hoping to see some 3-4 looks out of camp. If nothing else it is one more thing opponents have to prepare for. I know the Bears always have to spend considerable time preparing when going up against a 3-4 as it is not the look they are most familiar with. Just the potential of a 3-4 will distract opposing teams some.
     
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    I've been on staff here for 8 years. No matter what threads exist, people want their own threads to garner discussion, because they have their own twist on any/every subject.

    I laugh every time I see the strategy (...the official this or that, the LB thread).
     
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    I believe that pre snap alignment means less and less in today's NFL. Disguise and deception is the only constant.
     
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    Thats probably very true as I think about it. DE's often drop back into coverage nowadays in 4-3 schemes and a LB will pass rush. Still not the norm but still done more and more. Just when it seems you have seen all the variations of a defense somebody comes up with a new one. Sure be nice if the Bears came up with the new one this time. Been a long time since the 46 defense and when we actually lead the way.
     
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    I'd expect to see more CB blitzes this year. W/ Jennings playing the slot, we have extra capabilities. Few likely know just how much Fuller blitzed at VaTech. That is part of the reason Emery cited in picking him.
     
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    I do hope we do some unconventional stuff...move Houston up to LB for a 3-4 look....maybe slide Shea to the line or swap him out with Houston or Allen...why not line up 5-2 with a blitzing DB....heheh exterminate!!!!!!!
     
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    We could have some interesting flexibility on Defense.

    If Adrian Willson makes the starting line up it would be like having another LB at the Safety position who is good in coverage. You interchange Vereen and Fuller who both played CB and S in college and I believe I read somewhere Vereen was a good blitzer also to go with Fuller. Tillman has not been asked to Blitz much but I remember him getting a few sacks so he is capable as well.

    The front seven also has lots of flexibility. Briggs may be the only LB who does not play multiple positions. Houston use to drop in coverage in Oakland occassionally and I am Allen is well capable.

    With the Dline now keeping the Oline in place (in theory) the flexibility on these players would allow an Adrian Wilson to slide up from S position and cover for a blitzing LB. Wilson also has the size to pop the TE in the middle of the field from the S position or any other WR for that matter.

    All the CB's can blitz but Vereen could cover the CB role on a given play. May take a while to see more of this as I suspect they want the rookie to be comfortable at a single position before they start sliding him around.

    In the end though have players at multiple positions who on a given play can slide into another role. This will allow for potentially more blitzing, Confusion by opposing QB's on presnap reads, and hopefully more turnovers in our favor.
     
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    Only if you use it on every single down and I don't get that from reading what Paea said or from what Tucker and Trestman have said. You're nit picking semantics here and nothing more. The basic "scheme" is a still a 4-3 front but you can employ that in both ways.

    Tucker uses the term "run fit". Lovie called it gap control. It's the same f'n thing which is why I posted those tutorials for everyone to refer to. The basic "scheme" is still a 4-3 but with one gap and two gap variations for "run fits". All that changes are the gap assignments. The 4-3 "scheme" itself remains the same.

    To say the LB are not longer responsible for a gap is also incorrect but which gap depends on the how that DT and NT are used. We aren't playing a 3-4 where the NT is playing a zero technique and covering both A gaps so what he's referring to is that 2 technique style where the NT plays heads up on the OG and plays the A and B gap on the weak side of the formation. The DT may still be playing one gap style.

    It's just variations on a 4-3 scheme is all. Assignments shift but the entire scheme doesn't. We aren't playing it the way Jauron did when he had Washington and Traylor both playing pretty much as two gap NTs or at least they've never indicated that. We don't really have the size for it anyway.
     
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    This is the correct way to see it. Paea is a NT. All he's talking about is how he's being used where at times he may be asked to play a 2 technique over the weak side OG and handle both one A gap and one B gap. He's not talking about the way a 3-4 zero technique NT plays both A gaps and the ILB each play a B gap.

    Pasqualoni asked Ferguson about the 2 technique NT spot specifically before we drafted him telling him they intended to play the NT that way at times as opposed to being a Shade NT playing just one A gap. It's all about options and variation on the same 4-3 scheme.

    We seldom played our DEs positioned at a Wide 9 either but they've talked about that as well. All of these things change gap assignments for everyone or as Tucker likes to call them, run fits, but they don't change the basic defensive scheme.
     
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