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  1. soulman

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    In addition to Ford they also have Willie Carter whose a bigger power back like Bush. Maybe more of FB/H-Back type but apparently also a good receiver and a fit for a WCO type team.

    Willie Carter
    School: Tulsa
    Position: FB

    Bio: Part-time starter at H-back the past two seasons. Senior receiving totals included 49 receptions/382 yards/3 TDs after 61/868/7 as a junior when he was awarded all-Conference honors.

    Positive: Terrific pass-catching lead blocker/H-back who projects as a West Coast fullback. Possesses consistent hands, nicely adjusts to errant throws, and makes receptions away from his frame. Works to pick up yardage running after receptions, using an effective straight arm to keep plays alive. Occasionally lines up in the backfield and gets a lot of momentum going carrying the ball. Gets out front and blocks when necessary.

    Negative: Lacks the speed and quickness necessary to turn the corner. Does not always play to his size/speed numbers.

    Analysis: Carter looks the part and occasionally played to it for Tulsa but is a bit of an enigma. He possesses the underlying skills to be a ballcarrier, lead blocker, or receiver in a West Coast offense but must quickly elevate every aspect of his game.
     
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    What about Dri Archer the jet from Kent State. He is not an every down back because of size, but has the speed to be a mismatch out of the backfield. Looks to be a late round draft pick.
     
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    I want to bring up an idea Ric mocked. In his most recent, Ric mocked Storm Johnson (UCF) to us in the 6th round. Until I saw this I forgot how much I was impressed by him in UCF's bowl game in particular, but all year in reality. Possibly going to UCF he can fly under the radar and give us great value at the position. He would be able to take over the short yardage situations, but catches the ball out of the backfield pretty well too. For me, HB gives you just too much value wherever you draft them to not draft a backup this year. Let a rookie and Ford fight it out, dont just give an unproven guy like Ford the keys outright. Whoever is our backup, they are just one hit away from being the full time starter and if we get one dimensional the offense will suffer.

    Another option is Sims from WVU. He would likely cost us a 4th rounder but is probably the best pass catcher in this class. Runs similar to Forte, so we may be lacking a go to short yardage guy.
     
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    Last year Bush failed because they were using him as a "bruiser" back, when the o-line wasn't good enough to support that type of run game. They just need to find a cheap guy with speed to spell Forte every once in a while.
     
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    If Sims could be a likely replacement for Forte in 1-2 years I would take that in the 4th, but anything less then an eventual replacement cannot be taken before th 6th, and cannot be had before the 4th.

    What I've read about Johnson I really like, especially for a guy that will cost us next to nothing in a 6th rd pick.
     
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    My guess is that somewhere along the line Emery will bring in more competition for that #2 RB slot. Michael Ford made some nice runs in the preseason and he's really somewhat like a smaller version of Bush but with a little more shake and bake to him. It's blocking that's probably most suspect but that can be fixed. And like I posted before they have Willie Carter on the roster whose more of a 230-235lb FB type but also a very good pass catcher so he'll get a chance to see what he can do carrying the ball. I may be wrong but with so many rookie backs out there and even a few vets who may settle for one year minimum deals to play backup somewhere I can't see using a pick on one as long as we have Forte.

    Another ace in the hole might be Fiametta. The guy is a very good lead blocker and he looked pretty agile for a FB catching a couple of passes last year. Maybe he can fill a role like John Kuhn does for the Packers. He's about the same size and skill level. You don't want to pay a guy the kind of money we paid Michael Bush to make a handful of short yardage or goal line carries so using Fiametta in that role does make some sense. When Bush came in on short yardage everyone knew who was getting the ball. Forte has improved his short yardage and goal line game and by keeping Fiametta in their with Forte or the #2 RB there's more options for deception as far as running the FB on some straight ahead dive plays when the defense is looking for the ball to go to the #1 RB.
     
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    Would have liked this guy, but while he would have gotten more carries with the Bears than the Vikings, I think he wanted to be the man

    Toby Gerhart: I’m ready for my shot now
    Posted by Josh Alper on April 27, 2014, 2:14 PM EDT
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    Toby Gerhart had a close view of a workhorse tailback in Minnesota the last four seasons as he played a reserve role behindAdrian Peterson for the Vikings, but never got to fill the role himself.

    Now the running back has signed with the Jaguars and is in line for heavy use. Coach Gus Bradley said that he thinks 18 carries a game is “feasible” for Gerhart and Gerhart thinks he’s in perfect position to capitalize on that workload after such sparing use with the Vikings.

    “I had the skill set to be a starter from the onset, but I was playing behind one ofthe best in the game,” Gerhart said, via the Florida Times-Union. “I’ve gotten comfortable with the speed of the game, but don’t have the wear and tear on my body of someone carrying it 250 times a year. I think I’m in a unique situation. Even though it’s my fifth year in the league, I can come in and be a dominant guy. I’m ready for my shot now.”

    Gerhart had 353 touches with the Vikings and was productive enough as both a runner and receiver to make it easy to understand why the Jags would think he’s capable of doing even more in an expanded role. Barring a big addition in the draft, Gerhart should get every chance at proving himself right about being a dominant back. If he’s right, the Jaguars offense will have one less thing to worry about in 2014.
     

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