Bears Camp Report: Day 13

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    Bears Camp Report: Day 13

    August, 11, 2014
    AUG 11
    5:20
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    By Michael C. Wright | ESPN.com
    BOURBONAIS, Ill. -- A daily review of the hot topics coming out of Chicago Bears training camp:
    • [​IMG]Morning showers soaked the practice fields at Olivet Nazarene University on Tuesday. So the Bears moved their session across the street to Ward Field, where the club could practice on FieldTurf. “The players handled the transition today and the weather. We moved some things around, went indoors for our walk-through, came out here for the first time in full pads, got a lot of work done, moved some guys around and we made it through the day,” Bears coach Marc Trestman said. “We wanted to make sure we got this one in. We had Plan B and Plan C. Plan A worked pretty good and we got a lot of work done.” According to a school official, the same company that installed the surface inside the Walter Payton Center laid the FieldTurf at ONU, with the work being completed approximately three weeks ago. The school’s soccer teams used the field for the first time on Monday, and the Bears were the first football team to put the surface to use.
    • Zach Miller continues to state a strong case to win the job as the club’s No. 2 tight end. Miller put together another solid outing, catching every ball thrown his way during the various team periods.
    • Backup quarterback Jordan Palmer struggled during Tuesday’s workout, throwing a pair of interceptions to safety Chris Conte and defensive end Willie Young. The INT thrown to Young hit the defensive end squarely in the chest. Conte secured his pick in the end zone during a red-zone drill on a pass intended for Micheal Spurlock. Trestman declined to say whether Jimmy Clausen had overtaken Palmer on the depth chart. “I don’t think we’ve had any movement there at all,” Trestman said. “We’ll move people around. We’ll see how they play in different environments and we’ll make a decision when we have to.”
    • Trestman said “it’s too soon to talk about” whether Conte will play Thursday against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Conte came off the physically unable to perform list on Monday and has practiced just two days.
    • Ryan Mundy and Danny McCray continued to take snaps at safety with the starters. The club did work in Conte and Adrian Wilson with the starters as well.
    • Brandon Marshall spent time catching punts during special-teams periods, but don’t expect the club to use him in that capacity during games. “Brandon Marshall likes to get into some drills that maybe he shouldn’t be in,” special-teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis said.
    • Non-participants for Tuesday’s session included Chris Williams (hamstring), Eben Britton (hamstring), Jordan Mills (foot), Brian De La Puente (knee), Marquess Wilson(collarbone), Isaiah Frey (hamstring) and Lance Briggs. Briggs isn’t injured. He was given a day off, which Trestman routinely does for veterans.
    • Keep an eye out for linebacker Jerry Franklin, who is taking snaps with the starters on some of the coverage and return units on special teams. He’s also been taking reps with the second team on defense.


    IMO if Palmer doesn't GREATLY improve, or Clausen doesn't COMPLETELY implode, and Palmer makes this team then the first real questions have to come up about how honest the team has been about real competition. That will get piled on if Conte and Shea are given starting or primary backup spots w/out earning them over their competition. I hope that's not what happens though, but hearing that there has been no change in Palmer to Clausen is disheartening at best.
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    Bears Training Camp Notebook: August 11

    By KEVIN FISHBAIN - kfishbain@chicagofootball.com - Monday, August 11, 2014 4:31 p.m. CDT

    BOURBONNAIS — Special teams coach Joe DeCamillis has had some time to review an ugly game for his unit to start the preseason, and he addressed the media on Monday.
    “I took away we didn’t play very well. We had a lot of miscues. It’s disappointing, as practice has been going well,” he said. “We felt like it was a good training camp up to this point. So we’ve just got to be positive going into this next game and try to get some of those things taken care of and try to get some of the mistakes, guys that made mistakes, get them corrected.”
    Heading into the three remaining preseason games, DeCamillis knows he has several young players on a unit that saw a lot of turnover to get in the right position to avoid more mistakes.
    “We’ve just got to get some of these younger guys to understand some of the nuances of the kicking game that they haven’t really dealt with,” he said. “We’re trying to do that every day with extra meeting time and a lot of hard work on a lot of sides, so we’re trying to get that done.”
    Injury update: Jordan Mills (foot), Eben Britton (hamstring), Brian de la Puente (knee), Isaiah Frey (hamstring) and Chris Williams (hamstring) sat out. Mills still had a boot on his left foot.
    Returner sidelined: We didn’t get a chance to see Williams return a kick in the preseason opener. He left the game with a hamstring injury, and is now sitting out of practice. “Yeah it was disappointing because he had the second half, so that was disappointing to see that happen,” said DeCamillis, “but you did see the speed on that catch, so hopefully we can get that formulated in the kicking game.”
    Not one of the three returners we saw against the Eagles, Eric Weems, Micheal Spurlock and Michael Ford, did anything to take the job, but Williams will need to get healthy.
    One other player joined the punt return drills Monday — the Bears' top receiver. "Brandon Marshall likes to get into some drills that maybe he shouldn’t be in," DeCamillis quipped.
    Quick hits: Weather moved the Bears’ practice to Ward Field at Olivet Nazarene University, which recently got artificial turf added by the same company that installed the turf at the Walter Payton Center. … Jordan Palmer threw two interceptions, one to Chris Conte and another to Willie Young. … Ryan Mundy and Danny McCray opened team drills with the 1’s, but Conte, Adrian Wilson and Brock Vereen all got reps with the starters as well. … Michael Ford made a slick one-handed catch with Jordan Senn in coverage. … Charles Tillman had an impressive day, knocking two passes away from Brandon Marshall, though another one that he got his hands on ended up in the air and Marshall found a way to grab it in the endzone. … Trevor Scott beat Joe Long off the edge for what would have been a sack in team drills, continuing his strong camp and a tough one for Long. … Zach Miller, who has become a fan favorite, had at least four 10-plus yard catches in team drills.
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    I like the use of analogy in the comparison between Palmer and Clausen, but I don't know that's it's entirely helpful. Each position - FS, SLB, and QB - is different. The first major difference is the QB role is that of a backup, not a starter. The SLB is a package player considering how frequently the Bears are in the nickle. The free safety competition is between a rookie and a two year vet and each of these descriptions offered by me are superficial.

    In the case of Palmer and Clausen, I would wager - partially because of how Trestman responded to the question ("Has Jimmy Clausen moved up the depth chart?) during the interview session of today's practice - " I don't know [that] we've had any movement there at all. That doesn't mean we won't switch em up. This week we can give Jimmy an opportunity to go first after Jay.We haven't made that decision yet, but it still isn't necessarily Jimmy moving into the second slot. I think again he fits in where everyone else is at all other positions. We'll move people around [and] see how people play in different environments and we'll make a decision." That Clausen will be with the 2nd team offense on Thursday night.

    I know the news story right now is that Clausen is winning the battle, but I would preach caution. Again, he played with the 3rd team offense against the 3rd team defense. While he showed a stronger arm and more athleticism, those two attributes don't always coincide with better play. He's got a couple of games left in the pre-season to make his case more emphatic and I'm sure he'll get his opportunity this week.

    As a Bears fan I want them to get the best guy. Part of getting the best guy is ensuring that person is consistently superior in the criterion that matter. Palmer didn't look bad in PS game #1. Clausen looked slightly better. Let's see if that holds true when the tables are turned. The momentum is with Clausen at the moment. The media is on the kid inflating his attributes like he's the next McCown but we have time. Keep the process slow and objective. Don't give in to pre-season story slinging and let the two battle it out on the playing field. Again, this is a backup position and hopefully whoever wins the job doesn't ever take a snap.

    Right now Clausen's got the momentum, but Palmer isn't as far behind as the hype machine lets on.
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    Damn... he's good. doesn't miss a thing! Nothing gets by this guy... No detail is too small, LOL
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    We'll see if Marty changes his tune with Zach looking pretty darn solid. A 2 TE set sounds good to me with Marquess out for a while.
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    I been wanting to see a 2 TE set for a while now. The best way to beat a 3-4 defense is with a 2 TE set. Read a real good article on this a while back, if I have time tonight I will try and find it again.
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    I agree it's not really the same, but the reality the SLB and S (Trestman and the S's are saying that position is interchangeable there is not really a FS and SS anymore). But imo when you have a starting qb who you KNOW is going to miss 1-4 games, even if only partials, then the backup is every bit as important as the backup's of other positions. Clausen/Palmer are going to see real action this year(whoever it is), and Clausen in TC and that PS game has flat outplayed Palmer, and I wasn't a fan of Clausen coming in and was okay w/Palmer being here. I don't buy there is any hype machine going on, it's not like Clausen or Palmer have any real backers in the Bears media circles.

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