"Bears lose Nate Collins for season, another crushing DT loss"

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

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    Your Cornelius Washington idea is growing on me. I went back and read scouting reports on him. It sounds like he's really a raw talent, but he does have some impressive attributes. I'd like to see more of him this year.
     
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    WE WANT CORN WASH!!! WE WANT CORN WASH!!!!!!
     
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    These are the players ways of sticking it to the owners 'it's a business' mantra. Turnabout's fair play...
     
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    Well we have the "Mills Miracle" from the 5th round. Maybe we'll have the "Washington Whiz" from the 6th round too :)

    DavidL will be able to say he "called it" from the beginning.

    I'm ready for some good news of any kind. I really didn't think it was possible that our defensive line would be in this shape this season. It was a shock to me.
     
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    I follow him pretty closely. He was on the inactive list for Saints game. I don't know about Giants game. Here is another piece of CornWash trivia. He was top-3 in Georgia high school high hurdles at 220 pounds. He is a physical freak, but his pass rush technique is still pretty crude. That's what is holding him back at this point.
     
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    LOL, David, I don't know if his pass rushing could be more "crude" than what we're seeing now with our starters :-)

    It's beyond "crude" and should be outright illegal to start a DL as bad as ours is right now.
     
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    Guys like Reggie White who are around 300 can mostly overpower people. In a couple years, if Cornwash bulks up about 30 more pounds, he could be more of a power rusher, He already has great strength --can bench press 500 pounds. But, if he stays around 265-270, he is going to need to rely on speed and finesse. I notice he lets tackles chase him out the backdoor instead of cutting the angle with his second step (Clay Matthews does this beautifully). Also,he needs to develop swim, rip,spin moves after initial engagement. IOW, he needs coaching on this stuff. But I agree that the Bears should throw him in the mix this season and let him learn on the job. This guy has big-time upside potential.
     
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    The whole D sucks, not just the line lol LB's are the only somewhat bright spot and the Rook i want to see is on the sidelines most the game...They need to say screw it and just switch to a 3-4, get Bostic's energy out there, trade for a 3-4 DT, and move on...
     
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    hmmm so u all mean its not so simple as getting a tank of a man and tell him to eat the QB? get em!!!! ?
     
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    I with most of you all; Collin's injury adds to the growing attention the defense is demanding. Something will have to change this year, and especially this off season. I'm clueless but am wondering about:

    1.) Mel Tucker: Is this the Defensive Coordinator for the future? I do not have enough to go on, production is down but what is the cause? The GM, HC, and Coordinator have to have plans, and they need results. Where are the Bears in this process? The person making the change needs to be addressed before you should make it.

    2.) Same Scheme, New Scheme?: I have to admit (regardless of what has been said by the front office) that some people here have made good points based on the versatile personnel Emery has brought in that I could see a move into the 3-4 in the future. Still some missing pieces, but if an overhaul is required it might not be such a big surprise we see a nose tackle added.

    3.) What don't we know rookie? I do not believe Bostic is an immediate solution. Perhaps I am spoiled, but I'm not seeing the LB core as our bright spot either. What I see in Bostic (or Greene) and CornWash is hope. They have showed talent, and I'm counting on them contributing but based on the line up, there are probably reasons they are inactive or on the sideline. The thing I did like was that when Williams was out, wasn't Bostic making the calls? Someone made a comment earlier but perhaps Briggs is a true soldier and would be better off left worrying about his duty and not everyone else.

    4.) Tillman how much gas ya got? There is your bright spot, that's what your riding... How are the tires? Love the interior.

    5.) What "if" you don't pay Cutler? I think Emery had a good year building personnel. Hester and Peppers are currently overpaid based on production so far. Cutler isn't but will be next year(s). 27 contracts ending... From some of the things Emery has said he believes in scouting and the draft. Only way to win extra talent vs. the cap. The flip side is that behind that talk, some of his best improvements have come through free agency. All I'm saying here is what resource pool are you going to allow to make this needed change and what is the non monetary cost?
     
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