Bears Offense: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly

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  1. The Benjamin

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    Yes, but that is a vast improvement over what is the norm is it not?
     
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    part of the reason you run up the middle is to soften the middle, if you've been watching in the 3rd and 4th qtr's you'll start to see Forte breaking a few runs up the middle. If all you ever do is run outside, the D will shut that down.
     
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    I'll have to go back and look, I think when I last did it, he had 1 game w/out a TO; it might be 2....is that a vast improvement?
     
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    Not sure what you mean about "Soften up the middle," but if you meant that you keep the LBs closer to the middle and the LoS so you can open up the pass game to the outside WRs (via one on one matchups without LB help), then yes, that is correct.
     
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    I meant you wear out the DT/NT by constantly running into them. Ya big strong guy can take a 4-5 hits from a rb and get stop them, take 10-20 hits from that rb and he's now worn down and more likely to miss that tackle.
     
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    eh, DTs are much bigger than RBs, if anything, you are only beating up your RB.
     
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    Let me take a small 2lb hammer to you, you are much bigger, and i'll give you pads, now let me hit you w/the hammer, who'll wear down first?

    You never hear of a rb or a O "wearing down" for a reason, but you do hear about the D wearing down.
     
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    You make a point Ricza, but when I think of wearing down the defense I can also envision a different picture. I think of runs outside the tackles where players are engaged more on the line and the linebackers have to cover more ground to close the gap.
     
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    A, I'm not saying don't run outside, hell it's where Forte gets his best runs, I'm just saying you have to attemp to run inside also, even if it doesn't work early.
     
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    lol...thats a pretty strange analogy.

    OL wear down, because like the DL, they are constantly pushing and shoving each other. Defenses wear down because they are essentially chasing Offense non-stop, since they don't know what play is going to be called, whereas an offense does. A WR or RB knows if he has to run all out this play, or if he has to stay back and block for a few seconds.

    If a DL wears down because of run plays, i would suggest that this is because they are pushing up against the OL in a tug of war during the play, while trying to shed blocks, NOT because a RB is simply running into them.

    However, "softening up the middle" can work by getting LBs to remain closer to the LoS longer, which prevents them from dropping back into coverage in time on pass plays to the outside.
     

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