Bears Offense: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly

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  1. A-11

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    Ricza, I am not saying don't run up the middle, lol. I'm just saying Trestman runs it up Gaza's backside more then I'd expect because Forte does do better outside. I think any run can be used to wear down the D, and you do have to trust that eventually one down the gut is going to break the line...

    I'm just not sure why the ratio inside to outside the tackles isn't more balanced. Also, if you want to "soften up the middle" I'd think you'd use bush on more series. Not to tip off your plays by personnel but to mix it up and keep Forte fresher.
     
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    While I would like to see our 8mil backup actually being used, if the RB position is going to get less then 20 touches all of those, or at least the vast majority, should go to the primary rb.
     
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    Two thoughts: 1-our ppg is obviously aided by the turnovers/defensive td's scored by our D.
    2-the low 3rd down conv. rate is the UGLIEST stat which you cited
    3-anyone who has seen this offense, realizes that the BIGGEST PROBLEM with the offense is its INCONSISTENCY. It just doesn't quite pass the vaunted eyeball test. Good to great offenses don't look like pure s*** for 2+ quarters EVERY game before they "wake up."
     
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    Ya wanna know something even uglier? We've run the 2nd fewest offensive plays in the league. That goes hand in hand with having the 2nd most 3 and outs. There's no way in hell the 2012 Bears defense could've held up this long. It's nice we've finally got an offensive line, and 2 really good WR's and a good TE, but, weren't those the "missing ingredients" that Jay needed to perform well? I'm not taking away the fact that this is a brand new offense, and playcalling has to be curtailed to the limits of the rookies, but there have been too many pass plays, whether it's Cutler or Trestman's fault, and as a result, we get to watch our defense's corpse dragged up and down the field.

    Just to avoid any confusion for anyone: Yes, this defense is garbage, yes, this offense is going to take time to grow, but again:

    31st in offensive plays
    5th in offensive turnovers
    31st in 3rd down conversion rates

    There's no hope for the defense this year, but, I wouldn't be all that surprised if those three stats go up with a return to the run game.
     
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    hey Hey HEY!!! The O is not the problem!

    It doesn't matter they cannot stay on the field or get 3rd down conversions and are turning the ball over the ball at a higher click then just about every other team...they are NOT the problem! It's all the d's fault...you leave this Chicago O alone....it's been so long since we've had a good O, and not had to watch Cutler get *sob* being beaten around every *sob* time*sob*he*sob* drops back*sob* It's all the D's faaaauuuulllllt.
     
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    Exactly. I honestly don't expect much of the offense in the upcoming weeks without Jay, but if there's more of a balance on our offense (we're passing 60% of the time, and while we have the 4th highest ppc, the fact that we have so few plays run, and have those 3 and outs shows our passing game is wildly inconsistent), and the running game starts to look better, I would be at least 50/50 on drafting a QB as early as possible next year.
     
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    The O is scoring much better than in recent years but definitely needs to improve on ball control and ball security, no doubt.

    Let me know fellas when the defense plans on stopping anybody. Still waiting....
     
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    Next year when they have talent....until then the O has to protect them, but the D is doing their part in allowing a sputtering O to score by giving them plenty of chances(via turn overs).
     
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    Problem is, when turnovers don't come in bunches (and they won't against Rodgers for instance), the defense STILL MUST GET SOME STOPS. And this unit has proved itself utterly incapable of stopping drives unless the opposing QB makes mistakes. Takeaways are great but they can't be the only way the D can get off the field.
     
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    Honestly, this team never should have lost the Detroit game, and the Saints game was certainly within reach at times. I'm not damning the offense, or anything, but we need to drop the hype on them, and see what's really going wrong. It's all pure conjecture right now, because the following reasons could be why the offense sputters so much:
    1. Trestman knows our running game is kind of weak, and is trying to get things going with the pass game
    2. Trestman is, at least so far, worse than Tice with balancing his playcalling (there was a 5 attempt difference with Tice, whereas, again, 60% of our plays are passes)
    3. Jay is audibleing out of too many pass plays. This will definitively be put to rest these next few weeks, one way or another.
    4. Our offensive line has weaknesses, preventing them from blocking well, in the run game. It bears mentioning that, to go with #2, the run calls aren't exactly creative.
    5. They play in "catch up" mode too early in games, deciding to go for the deeper passes, and turning the ball over to the opposing defense, who makes their subsequent drive even harder, because they are likely to put 3-7 on the board.
    I'm sure it's a combination of the above, and as much as I want to see them win, it would reflect negatively on Cutler if this offense is able to at least sustain drives, and still score multiple times.

    The good news, though, is that we're currently 5th in Red Zone TD%, so hopefully that's a trend that continues. Josh McCown played wonderfully last week in the red zone, so there's another positive.
     

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