Bears show a few new twists on defensive line

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    Every time a new wrinkle or player has been added to the D it's "oh, definitely a sign of them moving to the 3-4." It's fucking annoying and has no base in reality. We are currently running the 4-3, and Tucker is testing his new unit's flexibility and versatility. Versatility and shifting looks is something every team in the league is trying to do at some level. Reading into that as anything more is the same annoying bullshit we hear in every single thread about the D or the future of players on this squad. Sure, it could happen, but it's fucking annoying the way every little move on D is now a sign of it's imminent inception. Let me know when we play actually play in a 3-4 and this argument becomes pragmatic. As far as I, or anyone here knows, we still play out of the 4-3 base and I love that we are growing up with the league and looking at giving hybrid looks.

    BTW, I heard the safeties and Major Wright especially, have been playing up on the line a lot, definitely means we are going to be playing the 46 next season. Why else would they do that? Surely not to give different looks to the high-flying opposing offenses of today's NFL. I swear, some of you guys are so fixated on Bears football that I wonder if you watch the other 31 teams play, because Lovie's strict, straight-forward 4-3 C2 is the exception these days, not the standard.
     
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    Again mel tucker runs a hybrid D. there is a base of fact, Shea is not a 3 down DE, base in fact, DJ Williams has played every LB in a 3-4 and 4-3, base in fact, they let go of the PREMERE 4-3 LB base in fact. but no base? Just b/c you say so doesn't make it so.

    No one is saying they are going to run a hybrid THIS YEAR so what is happening THIS year is irrelevant. It's are they moving towards a 3-4 hybrid....again the D the DC runs.
     
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    Mel Tucker ran a strict, conventional 4-3 C2 under Del Rio, put in a bit of his style on much of the same last year and only coached one season in the 3-4 before that. Nothing hybrid about what he's done except his background in diverse schemes.
     
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    To say it has no base in reality is a bit off the mark. When you look at the specific defensive players being drafted, they are guys that are actually much better suited for the strengths of a 3-4. Yet athletic and diverse enough to also fit in many 4-3 base defenses. Listen Emery is 'Patriot Way' believing GM. And he also comes from the camp that believes in the 3-4. There's no getting around that. Emery is not a Cover 2 supporter. It does take time though to transition from a Cover 2 defense to a 3-4. And in that regard, he's being smart about it. The guys the Bears are bringing in the last 2 drafts are guys that are just beter suited in a 3-4. That can't be dismissed. I personally think that this is the last year we run the 4-3.
     
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    While I don't doubt they may try some kind of use of a 3-4, there's absolutely no sign that Emery's rebuilding the defense with 3-4 parts, rather than 4-3. That's implying that he essentially knew McClellan wasn't going to be used effectively under Lovie, and now Trestman, which would be kinda weird given that it was his first pick as GM.
     
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    I'll add that since Devin Hester was working with the DB's on tackling, he surely must be switching back to defense, rather than improve on his tackling for special teams. lol
     
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    Well that's just silly.
    McClellan is not a DE. He's 3-4 pass rushing LB. Its understood that Lovie wasn't going to be around after that 1 year, where Emery was forced to work with him. Every GM brings in their own guy. And the only reason Emery was FORCED to work with Lovie for one more year is because he's black and the Bears ownership didn't want to deal with any potential backlash about firing a 'minority hire.' Its an ugly truth many don't want to look at in the face, but that's the only reason Lovie was brought back.

    They even set him up to fail by making Tice his OC. I mean it was a perfect plan to avoid any backlash for firing a black coach, but all this was carefully coordinated to make Lovie's exit justified and 'clean.'
     
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    Devin Hester is our No 1 CB...if I hear somebody say that even as a joke I'm going to flip a sh*t.
     
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    No, Shea McClellin is, in fact, a DE whose athleticism allows him schematic versatility. He was a hand in the dirt DE all throughout college and was the same last year.
     
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    Emery likes versatility, 4-3, 3-4 doesn't make a difference. Emery actually got indepth during his conference after firing Lovie. Almost no teams play the true 3-4 anymore, its just how guys set up at the snap of the ball. 4-3 3-4 is just the front 7 guys, in different places. Move on from the McClellin argument, he moved around a lot last year, shadowing qbs, covering RB's etc, he'll do more of that this year.

    As for moving guys around, hey, why not, keep offenses on their toes. Reality is, they will likely rush 4 drop 7. I think Tucker is running through different things, he's never had close to this talent before to work with, so some of his ideas he never got to try.
     
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