Bears Sign Jared Allen To 4-yr Deal

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    So are you saying that it's OK to let Anderson of the hook for being the first guy NOT to pick up the ball and run with it himself? The whistle hadn't blown the play dead and in practice they're taught to pick up any ball on the ground and run with it. Others failed after their field captain walked right but it kicking at it but never picking it up. Do ya' think maybe that told them not to bother? Yet the Packers field captain, Rodgers, made sure his guy picked it up and ran with and what happened. Six points for GB.

    And we also let Anderson off the hook for NOT making certain his DBs had the play call and their coverages straight on that last play. Thagt coming after they'd failed to stop GB on THREE prior 4th down plays! Who the f' what running THAT show? Oh yeah, Anderson again. A time out would have been a good idea there just to be 100% certain and either Anderson OR Tucker could have and maybe should have used one. But we didn't and now and for evermore Conte will always be the scapegoat for the ONE play. Sorry he's not mine.

    OK, now we've gone from being an expert NFL players agent to knowing more about the play of his FS than Jon Hoke huh? You're both entitled to your opinions but his counts for more and he actually gave Conte better marks than you're willing to. You'll excuse me if I depend more in his opinion than I do on yours won't you. Look, Conte is back and he's being given a shot at competing for his job. No one said he'd win it and everyone Bears related has said he has to earn it. If he doesn't he's either a backup or gone. That's as good as it's ever gonna get as far as this situation goes. End of story.
     
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    Exactly. If they don't produce this season, they will get the old "welcomed back with open arms" fate, from Uncle Phil. (*shudder*)

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    Just one more thing he said in his best Peter Falk/Colombo voice.

    How in the hell does a thread about Jared Allen turn into a tribunal of Chris Conte. Talk about a :thread jacked:.

    I've said all I'm gonna say about Chris Conte or to parphrase Steve "RosenRant"........"I'm the soulman, deal with it". :bah:
     
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    No. I went off in him when the play happened too. But if I had to pick one player who screwed us the most, it would be conte
     
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    Why you all getting down. Everyone is entitled to there opinion we frequently disagree in here. With respect to Conte, I do not believe he is very good either. Nor does Bleacher Report. Not gonna argue DT vs S as they are both needed and the quality of player at DT is less of a difference in rd 1 to rd 2 than at S unless Ward is still available which I do not believe he will be on the board when we pick in 2nd round. Conte is ranked as 55th safety out of 75; to do the math 32 teams x 2 = 64 starting safeties. Of these 64 -55(conte rank) = 9 safeties worse than Conte. Everyone can make there one conclusion, but I have a hard time seeing where he is not that bad. Maybe not compared to the other 9 but compared to the majority he is not very good and an upgrade would serve us well.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444324-br-nfl-1000-2013-top-75-safeties/page/6
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    And fine, you can say they have a better idea of Conte's value than we do. You're right.

    But to use that same argument..... How about their thoughts on Urlacher and his value? They know more about his true value than you and yet you're still pissed about it. But I digress, I'm done arguing about him.

    Fans are going to disagree with the coaches, GMs and other fans. It's part of football and sports in general.

    I'm not an expert agent and don't claim to be. But I guarantee you. Even if he wanted to be, Marshall would never get paid close to what CJ got.

    And as Jimmors said, I will believe it when I see it. Yet you don't go after him. Go figure.
     
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    I agree with this. BTW, I base my opinion on Conte from the entire body of work and not in the least on the GB play. I understand that some folks set the bar higher than others regarding our play at safety, and that's fine. Part of that is due to us not having a solid safety in awhile. I'd like to see better play there (whether that is Conte or another guy). I don't expect a pro bowl level guy, but just a guy who can make better decisions, tackle better, take better angles to the play and not look lost out there on plays. Conte is probably getting a last look/opportunity due to the fact this is his last contract year here. If he does well, then great. If not, then the Bears will move on. Is he better than Wright? Sure. But that isn't saying much, IMHO. This so reminds me of the OL debate in previous years......we'd debate "who sucked less" and in the end we got Kromer here who figured we should upgrade the talent. We now need to upgrade the talent at safety, as far as our starters. Don't do the J'Marcus Webb thing at safety.....if our starters suck then get better starters. I'm not hating on the guy, any more than I hated Webb. I just want to see better play. The guy (Conte) needs to up his game or get the "open arms" treatment in 2015.
     
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    If you replaced Conte as a starter you WOULD replace Steltz as the backup.....:laughing-019:
     
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    And indeed it should be. Point is and bottom line: It is more than just injuries that is wrong with the D.
     
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    SFB, no one said it was ONLY the inj's, EVER, but it's a far larger % then Tucker and the inj's are only slightly behind the complete incompetence of JA/Lovie and how they had so poorly drafted the last several years.

    I made a comment a few days ago I'll repeat, level of importance when it comes to the fail that was the D last year:
    JA/Lovie they did not draft well which created a lack of starting and backup talent, and were rightfully fired for it.
    Lack of depth no scheme can succeed w/out talent and the Bears lost 5 D starters and 3 pro bowlers, not to mention losing their starting QB for a handfull of games. Many players have now been replaced and/or Depth is being added as we speak.
    Emery/Tucker Neither were in a position or had the ability to adjust to the loss, and no scheme was going to save the team. But both have to be given a incomplete b/c Emery put all his resources into the O while stop gapping the D, Tucker had NOTHING behind his frontline, which he lost.
     
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