Bears Sign QB Jimmy Clausen

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    I'm not saying the kid has 0 talent, not much but not 0 either, i'm just saying that walter scouting on him was WAY to glowing; that's the stuff you right about Luck or Adrian Petersen, who were a sure fire, not a guy like Clausen, who wasn't overly impressive in college.

    ya he might have more talent then any of the other backups, but it might well be a knock against the others more then a + for Clausen.
     
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    I fully trust Trestie on his roster, just not fretting the idea that Clausen is somehow coming in b/c of the lack of talent behind Cutler more then the team likes to have 5 guys on the TC roster
     
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    At the very least at it will be good competition for backup Qb roll, and 3rd Qb if we keep one. Clausen kinda got thrown to the wolves as rookie Matt Moore was actually starting Qb in carolina and he went down early with injury. After that season was so bad and Fox and gm were on there way out door anyways. clauson never had chance after that not sure he fit the New system anyways. By no means do i expect Clausen to replace jay, but if he beats Palmer for the job I am not gonna loose sleep over it.
     
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    I'm down with it. Uncle Phil said he was gonna do stuff like this when the opportunities arose so he's just following through on his pledge to make attempts to upgrade wherever he can. I'm glad to see it. I made the comment I did mainly because if he was a NC scout or that was the scouting report they depended on I'm sure they came away disappointed but hey at 26 the kid's career may be far from over and like all these failures he's a bargain if it works out.

    What this reminds me of is bargain shopping for effects pedals for guitars. A lot of guys keep searching for something they think is in a box with a circuit board and wires instead of their heads and their fingers so they race out and spend $150-$200 to buy the latest hot item all the reviewers say will make them sound like Jimi Hendrix. A month later they still suck and think it must be that pedal so they sell it on Ebay for $50-$75 and start looking for the next one.

    Emery is good at finding football players like those bargain pedals. A little used but they may still be very useful to someone who knows what to do with them.
     
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    In support of the idea we can all go back to Emery's comments about how few QB drafted after the first couple of rounds ever become NFL starters. Of course then he goes out and drafts a 6th round guy and some scratch their heads. It not all that tough to read what's happened.

    Fales isn't expected to ever become a starter. If it happens, like it did with Brady, it's pure dumb luck. So out there sits Clausen who was a 2nd round pick and he does fit the profile of becoming a potential starter but it's gonna take some work for that to happen if it happens at all.

    By Phil's own metrics of the four backup QB prospects Clausen would be the only one who has a fighting chance of ever becoming a starter. I'm not saying that will ever happen but it fits with the thinking Emery spoke about before the draft. So Clausen is just a backup prospect who may have the potential to start someday.

    It may never happen but he may end up becoming a higher level backup than any of the other just like McCown did. Hey all they did was hand him a one year non-guaranteed deal and a playbook to learn so far. Anything else he has to earn.
     
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    That's a perfect way to look at it. Agree 100%.

    I am amazed by how relentless Emery/Trestman are in pursuing better depth. Angelo/Lovie seemed to be more focused on bringing in the team and rolling with that, and cutting the roster down to the eventual 53.

    The Emery/Trestman model is to relentlessly pursue, even incremental upgrades. And they do this all year round. It never stops. Some may think this is overkill and say it's not going to be THAT big of an improvement, so why keep bringing in guys to kick the tires on. But I think this is just one of many things that winners do to be winners - the little things DO matter in the bigger scheme of things. A guy like Clausen may be a only a teeny bit better than say Fales or Palmer. But maybe he ends up being just enough better that it means a win later this year rather than a loss - if Cutler goes down to injury. Maybe it's just that one completed pass in a game that moves the chains and ends up in a score to win the game. Or heck, maybe Clausen doesn't do squat and fails to make the 53 man roster.....and the others do. That's still good IMHO. You light a fire under these guys with healthy competition - something Lovie really didn't promote as well as he could have.
     
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    I have come around to like the constant pursuit of the right player. I thought it may alienate players, but based on the interviews it seems like it has invigorated the team. We still need to see the organization deliver post season results, but I feel more confident we are on the right path.
     
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    Then why spend the pick on Fales if Clausen was available and Trestman had his eye on him? I think Palmer may be dinged up and we need an arm for a bit.
     
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    Competition is a good thing. It's not like it costs us much at this point. They released a udfa player to make room who had little chance of making the team anyway.

    I'm guessing they will end up keeping 3 QBs on the final roster with possibly a 4th on the PS (3 + 1). It could end up being some other combo like 2 + 1 or 3 + 0. My guess is JJ is most likely to be an "odd man out" given that he's the only one with zero time on a 53 man NFL roster and who went undrafted. Maybe Clausen makes the team and pushes Fales to the PS (assuming he clears waivers), maybe he will end up being cut as a "call back" guy in case there's a mid-season injury. Who knows.

    It will be interesting to me to see how they handle Fales. I don't see much point in expending a draft pick on a QB if you're not going to invest more than one rookie offseason to groom him and see what you have or don't have. It's tough to get a drafted QB to the PS and keep him there all year so if they don't make a spot for him on the final 53, he may get signed away and then you've in effect spent a pick for another teams benefit. In other words, if he's not worth keeping why did you draft him in the first place?

    Anyway, this all is just something trivial for us to talk about in the doldrums of June. The Bears QB situation is going to sink or swim 99% on Jay Cutler. He needs to take another step forward in his game (ball security especially) AND stay healthy. Bottom line. He got the big multi-year contract, now he needs to produce like it. Hard to do that sitting on the bench.

    We caught lightning in a bottle with McCown last year and that's not likely to become a regular thing. The most you can realistically hope for with your backup QB/QBs is to get you a win or two (max) and keep the ship afloat until your starter returns. The chance that any of these 4 guys behind Jay becoming a quasi-starter or future starter is very slim.
     
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    For the first time in a long time I'm very confident. Our arrow is pointed up after the perpetual plateau effect of Lovie and JA.
     

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