BOSTIC HIT,...LEGAL /ILLEGAL ,...

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BOSTIC's HIT WAS

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  1. Nakoma1

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    seems there are some jokers here that would like YOu to think other wise ,...

    Me,... I'm a fan I know what I saw ,.... WHAT DID YOU SEE ? with regard to Bostic's hit
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    Illegal according to the rules. He led with the crown/top of his helmet, case closed.
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    I took a few looks at the .gif again and watched the youtube link. Can't tell exactly when he caught the ball, but it looks like two steps were taken. I also do not think the receiver was capable of protecting himself when he was hit (Bostic did have his head down on the tackle). So illegal hit, but I also think it might have been a fumble, and I don't blame Bostic.
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    illegal cause the league says so ,.. But in reality it's total Bs
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    Ten years ago this was league. Just like a lot of other things.

    Rules change, it's the way it is...

    There a lot of other rules that soften the game, but rules are rules.
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    I say it was a good hit..I dont think Bostic was leading with his top of his helmet,it just ended up like that..
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    All that matters is that the league thought it was illegal. Whether we agree or disagree, really doesn't matter IMHO.
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    THEIR wording wasn't the best Just,.... Willey wasn't defenseless and from the angle from Keg and Jimor's gif that has been posted I can see a more shoulder to shoulder to hit Most people are seeing the reverse view of this and to my knowledge it has been the wording the league used which has caused the uproar ,... Where others are trying ever so hard to have a H2H hit

    I understand the league is trying to clean up on bad hits BUT if you want to enforce rules MAYBE some of the terminology needs to be changed ,... as most are not buying Willey was defensless at the time I sure as heck am not buying it
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    Urlacher said on Fox Football Daily today he knew Bostic was going to get fined because of how violent the hit occurred and the NFL doesn't mess around with that. But #54 also said there was no flag on the play and he feels that if the play didn't even draw a flag it should not be reviewable for a fine.
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    Yeah, sends conflicting messages when its ok during the game, but a no-no after the fact.
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    Not a fan of MOUTHSLacker but his closing line RINGS LOUD ANd thats how it should be as a league norm.
    I've stated my argument on it. The league needs to reword their rules and have better reinforcement.,..and I AGREE with slacks here,... the refs should have flagged that play

    This can go round n round,.... IMHO the wording of the rule is flawed and there are angles showing a shoulder to shoulder hit ,. it's not like he took his head off DEAD Nuts on the money ,... where it was clearly a head to head . AND Willey was not defenseless
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    TECHNICALLY Bosic did lead with the crown if his helmet which was one of the natures of the fine. Even though he DID hit him with his shoulder, he did lead with the crown of the helmet.

    However the whole helpless receiver part is a crock. He had the ball and should have his head on a swivel. No WR who has possession of the ball should ever be considered "defenseless"
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    Illegal as of this year's rule (which I don't like), but not for the reason he was fined or the league says.

    Oh, and it was a fumble.
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    If it was a fumble, then no defenseless player, then no foul.

    and Bostic play is not the new helmet rule. new is penalty (crown helmet) can be called even if player is not defenseless.
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    Congratulation for getting what I'm saying, even if your pathway was mistaken.

    The WR wasn't defenseless, therefore the call was invalid, and also the fumble would stand. However, Bostic lead with the crown of his helmet, which is a violation of the rules as of this year. The real violation was not called.
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    My thoughts on this are that you can have control of the ball (completed pass) and not have time to protect yourself (defenseless posture) before the hit. What I don't like is that you can be fined without being flagged for unnecessary roughness. If it was wrong, where was the flag? Moot point, but if it wasn't a big hit there would be no fine and I'm not sure where the hit scale factors into the rule book.

    Also, the player has to be considered to be in a defenseless posture before any contact is prohibited under Rule 12, Sec. 2, Article 7...
    (that includes leading with top/crown or forehead/"hairline", BUT as you said, is NOT the "new helmet" rule and not what Bostic was fined for.)
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