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  1. MPbears68

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    Lets remember that the D is way ahead of the O right now. The D has the same scheme and personnel except for Urlacher and Roach being gone. The O, OL esp, is learning an all new scheme and play book with a lot of new faces and positions. The OL is going to struggle big time at this point. Bushrod is the only one who knows Kromer and he's sitting out right now.
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    lots of nick nack injuries early I would bet if it was in season injuries you play through those--some guys getting a shot cause of these injuries I wonder if any of them make a lasting impression to make the team

    thanks ric for all the updates

    areas Im liking is dline, wrs, rb, dbs, qb from camp so far

    looks like Slaussen is LG or nothing on this team.
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    The defense ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYSx6, according to Trestman and other NFL minds, beats the offense early in training camp. Injuries (see previous sentence) happen this time of year, of various degrees. Not that anyone's freaking out about it now, but, thanks to twitter, non-news is now news. Give it time, and we'll see the rough edges getting rounded down. On a similar note, I can't wait to see the overreaction to preseason on how bad our offense or defense is. I have a feeling I'll be repeating "The 2008 Lions went 4-0 and the '85 Bears went 1-3 in preseason" a lot.
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    Henry, seriously no one worries about WINNING in the pre season, it's about how well they PERFORM, is the OL getting rocked? Is Cutler throwing picks? Are the TE's actually able to catch passes? Are the DB's and LB's playing up to par w/last year?

    It's not about winning or losing in the pre, it's about how the team looks.
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    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2013/7/31/4574792/chicago-bears-training-camp-day-5-recap

    Chicago Bears Training Camp: Day 5 Recap
    By Lester A. Wiltfong Jr.@wiltfongjr on Jul 31 2013, 12:19p 6

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    The Chicago Bears took yesterday off, -- How dare they? -- but they are back at it today, and we'll recap the days festivities with a little help from Twitter.
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    After reporting last Thursday, Camp Trestman is now seven days old, but that 1st day was just a conditioning test, so technically camp is six days old, and since there was no practice yesterday, this is only the 5th day of practice. Got it?
    It was a rainy morning in Bourbonnais, so the players had to deal with some footing issues.
    Cornerback Tim Jennings was excused from practice for personal reasons, and Zach Bowman filled in across from Charles Tillman.
    Wide out Brandon Marshall and defensive end Cheta Ozougwu were both back at practice, but left tackle Jermon Bushrod was held out. Bushrod was still in a walking boot to protect his strained calf. On Monday, it was Jonathon Scott filling in at LT, but today it was Cory Brandon and Eben Britton filling in with the ones.
    Scott and defensive lineman Jamaal Anderson were both nursing sore knees.
    In other injury news, linebacker D.J. Williams has a calf injury, and receives the "week to week" designation. His calf injury is worse than Bushrod's, so rookie Jonathan Bostic will get some extended action with the starters.
    The offense was being tweeted about today during practice, as they worked on some Red Zone stuff. OMG The Defense is showing it's age!
    Martellus Bennett catches a TD then dunks the ball to the delight of the crowd #BearsTalk
    — Bears Talk (@BearsTalkCSN) July 31, 2013
    Marshall gets up slowly after a TD grab. Sits out a play and comes right back in.
    — Adam Hoge (@AdamHoge) July 31, 2013
    LM: Alshon Jeffery leaps high to catch a touchdown pass from Jay Cutler in back of end zone just out of reach of Major Wright.
    — Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) July 31, 2013
    Marshall keeps making tough, physical grabs in training camp. No wonder coaches trying to take it easy with him.
    — Zach Zaidman (@ZachZaidman) July 31, 2013
    Deep sideline pass from Jay Cutler to Earl Bennett beats coverage and goes for TD. #Bears
    — Jeff Dickerson (@ESPNChiBears) July 31, 2013
    Look at that nice clean pocket!
    #Bears: pic.twitter.com/GGaLk31zAd
    — Zach Zaidman (@ZachZaidman) July 31, 2013
    #Bears QB Jay Cutler on players buying in: "Everyone has bought in. 100 percent." So that process only took a week.
    — Brad Biggs (@BradBiggs) July 31, 2013
    Trestman says #Bears will "keep things very vanilla" heading into first preseason game #BearsTalk
    — Bears Talk (@BearsTalkCSN) July 31, 2013
    The defense had some positive moments as well.
    Shea McClellin with a nifty spin move around J'Marcus Webb in 2on2's. #Bears 2012 first round pick has looked good so far every day at camp
    — Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) July 31, 2013
    Sherrick McManis picks off Josh McCown in 2nd team action
    — Brad Biggs (@BradBiggs) July 31, 2013
    No reason to be concerned about Tim Jennings. But his temporary absence did allow Zack Bowman to get his reps. Bowman has made several plays
    — Jeff Dickerson (@ESPNChiBears) July 31, 2013
    Corey Wootton lined up inside just blew past Kyle Long.
    — Jeff Dickerson (@ESPNChiBears) July 31, 2013
    Here's some Devin Hester stuff we missed from training camp so far.
    Devin Hester almost blocked a kick moments ago. It's a new era watching Hester as more than just a return man on special teams.
    — Zach Zaidman (@ZachZaidman) July 29, 2013
    DeCamillis on Devin Hester: "His attitude has been great."
    — Adam Hoge (@AdamHoge) July 29, 2013
    What has caught your eye so far about Training Camp?
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    Bostic needs to step up and show some flash otherwise they might be signing another MLB off the street.
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    ESPN just had some talk about todays practice and what was said was there were WAY to many balls on the ground to run a WCO. The O needs to start getting sharper.
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    It's not the winning, per se. Every year, this board goes into preseason knowing it's just going to be "vanilla plays", yet goes absolutely spastic when the defense isn't winning one on one matchups, or when the wide receivers play horribly, or if the d-line or o-line doesn't perform to snuff. People tend to view the preseason as a "preview", rather than getting the repetitions and getting used to play beside one another, within their various schemes.
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    so if you know it's not about winning why bring up the pre season record? Again winning and losing in the pre season have nothing to do w/how the team played.

    Ya when you see a section or players not performing well there is cause for concern. It is a preview of how that group will do. Doesn't mean it won't get better but it is one. If Cutler has to be pulled 2-3 plays into the 3rd pre season game to save him from the OL ya that's a preview and reason for concern.
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    preseason is basically just a $$$ scheme for teams forcing season ticket holders into buying that crap at regular price.

    the core of this team is set all preseason is going to do is get our roster down to 55, fill out practice squad, and hide extra talent on IR if necessary
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    I refuse to believe that is true for some teams. But I'm following ya. lol
    Pretty sure that was his point...
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    used to be that way, but w/the teams limited ability to practice and hit in camp and ota's and pre season is going to be a lot more then that. Many have wondered if it will mean more playing time for the starters to get them "football ready".

    Also just remember that BOTH teams are running vanilla, so when the O is looking bad and it/s b/c they are playing Vanilla...so was the D they went up against.
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    Like how it worked out with Caleb Hanie?

    Until Blanchard plays in some regular season games, it's not smart to dump the vet backup for the unproven inexperienced guy.
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    1 Caleb Haine wasn't allowed to talk to the OC, and he wasn't allowed reps w/the O...ever.

    2 How can Blanchard get reg season games if he's not the 2?

    3 McCown has looked HORRIBLE
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    Zach Bowman being anywhere near non-ST field of play is a disaster waiting to happen. He's the suckiest suck that ever sucked and I'd rather we give TJ's reps to a kid.
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    update to this last post. McCown actually looked good today minus the duck the threw to McMannis.
    Blanchard has looked good all camp from what I have heard
    And it was pointed out on Waddle and Silvey today talking w/JD that the backups have gotten tons of time, specifically the QB's and they said it's the first time they can remember that the the team had to make sure the starting qb had to make sure was getting enough reps b/c the backups were getting as many as they did.
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    Would be a nice added dimension if Hester can block kicks. I sure don't want to see Peanut out there trying to do it anymore.
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    http://www.hubarkush.com/2013/07/31/bears-o-line-shuffles-due-to-injuries/afoebq9/
    Bears O-line shuffles due to injuries
    Left tackles Jermon Bushrod and Jonathan Scott did not practice Wednesday, leading to a new unit up front that got off to a rough start.
    By KEVIN FISHBAIN - kfishbain@shawmedia.com - Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:12 p.m. CDT
    BOURBONNAIS — Cory Brandon has not played in an NFL game, yet he was the first-team left tackle at the beginning of Wednesday’s practice.
    Then Eben Britton, who has 15 starts in the past three seasons — most recently at guard — took over as the top left tackle for the majority of practice. Not an ideal look for a team that still has major questions along the offensive line.
    Jermon Bushrod remained out of practice with a right calf injury. He is still wearing a protective boot and considered day-to-day. Jonathan Scott bruised his knee early in practice and spent the morning with ice wrapped around it. Hub mentioned in his column yesterday that the Bears can't afford to lose Bushrod, and they had to go without his backup on Wednesday as well.
    The shake-ups on the O-line led to a rough start for the whole offense following a day off. There were pre-snap penalties, and head coach Marc Trestman was visibly frustrated with a couple of them.
    “You saw there were a bunch of pre-snap penalties that allowed us to look a lot sloppier than we have practiced throughout,” he said. Trestman did add that things improved as practice went along on the offensive side of the ball.
    James Brown continued to take almost all the snaps as the first-team right guard, with Kyle Long sprinkled in with the group for a few reps. Even with the injuries at left tackle, it is clear that J’Marcus Webb will not return to the blind side — he has stayed at right tackle.
    Trestman saw the bright side of the moving parts along the O-line for Wednesday’s practice.
    “Aaron [Kromer]’s mixing them up, we’re working through training camp to find the best five and the way to do that is to move people around and see who can play best at different positions and we’re going to be very patient with that,” he said.
    Kromer, who serves as offensive coordinator and offensive line coach, reiterated that they are working to find the best group of five players to protect Jay Cutler.
    “Our goal is to find the best five. When we find the best five, it’ll be obvious,” he said. “Whether we put them at left guard, right guard, whoever they are, we’ll find them. And we don’t control when that’ll happen. It’ll just happen.”
    In five practices, we have now seen three or four different looks on the first-team offensive line. Britton said today was another example of the “next man up” philosophy and always having to be ready.
    “Guys might go down and you have to be ready to step in there and get the job done just as well as the [starters].”
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    He'll get reps if the season goes down the tubes. I do not want the Bears to put the season on the line on a kid that has never played an NFL game if we are competing for the playoffs and Cutler needs to come out for a game or two. And from what I have been hearing on the radio, McCown has not looked horrible. He's been fine.

    The Bears should not be in the business of developing UDFA QB's when we are trying to figure out Cutler's long term future. We have far more invested in Cutler than Blanchard. I have not seen a UDFA QB get so much hype than... well... Hanie I suppose. And he didn't win a game for us in 2011. You know who did win a game for us in 2011? McCown. With no reps or training camp.

    Experience is important for your #2. Potential is great for the #3, but if he does not have that experience, that's why he's the #3.
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    Trestman doesn't agree w/you. The backups, both McCown and Blanchard have gotten far more playing time then anyone has seen in camp in forever, by all reports.

    I do not want the team to put hang the teams playoffs on the hat of McCown OR Blanchard, neither is going to keep the team in it. But I'd rather go w/what I don't know and hope for the best(blanchard's play) then what I do know and expect a different outcome(McCown not to suck balls).

    How'd that experience work out for ya last year? Experience of a garbage player means jack squat b/c they are still garbage, if Blanchard is good enough to sit at 3 years he's good enough to see if he can back up Cutler. it's not like McCown will find himself on any other squad other then Chicago if they cut him. There's a reason that dude was coaching HS and not on a NFL roster when the Bears dumpster dived for him.

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