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  1. riczaj01

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    McCown couldn't be worse then he is as QB, throw him into the mix. Maybe he can add weight like Shea did :p
     
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    Eh, you just struck a pet peeve of mine regarding experience at certain positions. QB is one of them. Offensive line is another. This conversation would not be happening if we were talking about the experience level of a safety or running back. Also, I'm bored.

    The idea that Blanchard being unknown at QB is some desirable quality is ridiculous. Being an unknown is one of the worst qualities in a backup QB. Only a poorly run NFL franchise would go with only a #2 QB that was a UDFA with zero NFL experience except a year on the practice squad for another coach. Even Tom Brady had to spend a year proving himself to Belichick to be the backup QB when he came in as the fourth string QB in 2000.

    That you keep saying McCown was out of the league for two whole months has no bearing in this discussion. He got cut from the 49ers in 2011 before we signed him. They had Kaepernick and Smith on the roster. What, you expected him to beat them out?
     
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    I'm with you guys. McCown is a crap backup. They're wasting a roster spot and $ with him. He belongs in a hefty bag, out by the curb, on garbage night.
     
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    McCown has three years of starting experience, nearly a decade ago.

    Cutler has seven years of starting experience.

    Jay doesn't need a mentor. He needs somone to teach.
     
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    Wait, Cutler needs to teach someone? Now? No he doesn't. He's the starter. Everyone on this team is learning the offense. Jay is not beholden to teach. He is here to learn and perform at a high level.

    Jay is at at the end of a contract year that if he plays well during could result in a 100 million dollar Romo level deal. If he fails this year, we let him walk, and he's got to go somewhere else on a "prove you can play" one year deal, and he probably never gets a chance at the big dollars again.

    Hate to say it, but if I was Cutler, I wouldn't give Blanchard the time of day if it interfered with my learning this offense and my big chance at money like that. You can take your "good teammate" BS and cram it up your wazoo. I get my long term deal? Hell, come over here, son. Let me show you how it's done.

    Cutler needs to learn this offense. We have invested far more into Cutler than any scrub UDFA we scraped up off the street. Emery needs to find out one thing this year: Can Cutler and Trestman work together. Trestman is the future here, not Cutler. If Emery's chosen head coach cannot get along with Cutler, we need to know that this year.

    McCown has been a backup QB forever. He's learned quite a few NFL style systems. He likes to teach, he's not in line for some big payday, and the more helpful he is to the other players will help him stick to the roster. He seems to have picked this system up enough to hold his own little seminar to the rookies the first day of camp at the hotel.

    We aren't worried about his potential, which is zero. We know what he is. He's a backup caliber QB. He's not going to step in and win the SB if Cutler goes down. He can be depended on to run an NFL style offense. Blanchard isn't ready to do that yet. I wish I could communicate that message clearer.

    It's the difference who you want to drive you to the hospital, a kid on his learner's permit who only driven a car on a driving course, or my 70 year old dad. That kid might be the next Mario Andretti, but hitting the road for the first time he is more likely to crash the car.
     
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    You cannot communicate the message b/c you have no ability to prove it. If McCown was capable of running an NFL style O, he'd be a starter somewhere, he's not b/c he cannot.
     
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    Well as much as I hate to do this Ric (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) I have to call bull shit on that. Read that over to yourself again and you'll realize how ridiculous it sounds. There are at least 32 plus QBs on NFL rosters who won't be starters but they need to be there to play in case the #1 guy goes down.

    If the keep there jobs or win jobs as a #2 I think it's safe to assume they can operate their teams offense well enough to at least have some chance of winning a few ball games but the days of a backup like Earl Morrall taking anyone to a Super Bowl are long gone and have been for some time. That sounds to me like they're all capable of playing in the NFL without throwing up in the huddle or tripping over their own shoelaces as they drop back to pass.

    Why don't you explain who you want for a backup QB and what you expect him to prove before he wins that job. If you're gonna bitch about McCown then let's hear your solution. Campbell's NFL stats were far more impressive than McCown's and all you did was bitch about how paying him $3.5 mil was a waste so this year the cap is tight and we learn to live with a guy whose cap cost is about $3 mil less and that's not doing it for you either. So whose your pick to click big guy?

    Blanchard showed some stuff last game but it was against Carolina's scrubs and we should pretty much have figured he could do that already. He went undefeated in college against talent like that. But how will he fare against the other guys first team? Well right now we don't know because he hasn't been up against them but lucky for us we have another QB who has been 50 times in his career and he did win some of those games so where in the blue hell do you come off saying that he can't run an NFL offense?

    He already has, 50 more times than our #3 has in fact, so since these are our only two choices who are you putting at your #2 spot coach?
     
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    Soul, you ignorant slut(snl 70's skit, nothing personal) but there aren't 32 starting quality nfl starters right now, in the league, of the backups there are only a small portion that could start for those teams that don't have one...McCown isn't one of them...the few that are capable of starting were drafted recently and not likely to be traded and have not had a shot at FA. McCown actually did have his choise of teams to goto, and not one wanted him, which is why he was a HS coach and not even a backup a few years ago.
     
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    No kidding... and honestly, if Emery & co decide to go in a different direction and Cutler isn't starting for da Bears next year, I can all but guarantee he is starting somewhere else. That's how bad it is... at least that's what I think.
     
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    You're still avoiding the last question coach. Cutler goes down and you've only got two bullets left to use so which one goes in the gun first? If Jennifer Aniston would have married me instead of Brad Pitt I'd never have left her for Angelina Jolie but I didn't get the chance. Why are we even talking about what isn't instead of what is?

    There are too 32 quality starters in the NFL right now because two will need to start in each of 16 games every week. That makes them an NFL caliber starter but just like pistols some a .22 cal, some are .38s, there's a few .40 cals. a .357 or two and then there's a handful of .44 magnums. But they're all starting for their teams and if Cutler goes down and he's a .357 then we'll just have to use one of our .22 cal subs. Maybe next year we can afford a .38 or turn Blanchard into one.

    So coach which one of those .22s you plan on using first? ;)
     
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