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  1. riczaj01

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    Never have I been so happy that the Bears had a nearly 2 hr delay. Keeping it kind of short b/c the game was so long b/c of the delay and I had a ton of other things happening around me.

    Chicago O: It wasn't just them, but man they were not good in the 1st qtr. But they came out a different team after the break, everyone. The only one that had a really bad game, who only caught 4 of 10 passes. McCown had another solid game, but this isn't a OT game if he throws a TD to Marshal in the 2nd HIGH and not a laser right at the defender. Forte had a good bounce back game, w/over 100 yards and a TD. The game was pretty ugly regardless though, weather and field conditions just aren't going to allow a good review of either team. Jeffrey regardless of weather was clutch again.

    Chicago D: Speaking of a group that didn't start well, they made people remember what Rice was like the last few years and not this year. Again they also seemed to allow the opposing O to stay on the field longer then they should have been. But a few big things, Peppers stepped up and so did David Bass. The team suffered another loss on the starting D, Paea went down. They cannot keep suffering these inj's and field a team.

    Chicago ST: Gould stepped up huge, Podlesh had a few big punts late. that's about it.

    Chicago Coaches: Good game by all around. They were also able to take advantage of a huge delay and got their team refocused for a huge comeback.


    Balt O: Flacco had an awful game, 50% comp % and 2 int's, but Ray Rice and some clutch plays by WR's and TE's kept this game close.

    Balt D: If anyone wants to know what a team can do to retool in a year on D, take a look, they were stout for most of the game, and if their O was more productive they might have looked better also, but Flacco gave the Bears 7 points and another extra shot to boot...and the Bears took advantage.

    Balt ST: Their K is as clutch as Gould, that's about it.

    Balt Coaches: Unlike the Bears, they started the game hot, and they didn't have their team ready once the game got restarted. Still they found a way to reverse the momentum and force OT.
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4688232/rapid-reaction-chicago-bears-6

    Rapid Reaction: Chicago Bears
    November, 17, 2013
    6:18PM ET
    By Michael C. Wright | ESPN.com
    CHICAGO -- A few thoughts on the Chicago Bears' 23-20 overtime win over the Baltimore Ravens at Soldier Field:

    What it means: Only the tiebreaker from Detroit sweeping Chicago keeps the Bears from leading the division. So Chicago's win over the Ravens coupled with Detroit's loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers puts the Bears back in serious contention for a legitimate shot at winning the NFC North.

    Second-guessing Marc Trestman: With possession at the Baltimore 2-yard line thanks to a defensive holding penalty on Jimmy Smith in the second quarter, Chicago called three consecutive passes that fell incomplete, leading to the Bears settling for a 20-yard field goal that made the score 10-3 in favor of the visitors. The calls seemed a little questionable given where the Bears were on the field. After throwing incomplete toBrandon Marshall and Tony Fiammetta on first and second down, Josh McCown tossed another incompletion to Marshall. On the play, it appeared McCown could have taken advantage of a mismatch on the outside with tight end Martellus Bennett lined up against a Baltimore cornerback.

    In the fourth quarter, the Bears elected to punt instead of trying to convert a fourth-and-1 at the Baltimore 44 that would've allowed them to run more time off the clock to preserve a win in regulation. With a little more than a minute to play and the Ravens in the red zone, Trestman also elected to not burn any of his timeouts. Had he called a couple, the Bears may have had time to mount a potentially game-winning drive after Justin Tucker's game-tying 21-yard field goal.

    Bass bailout: Despite the squandered opportunity from the 2 in the second quarter, Bears reserve defensive end David Bass bailed out the offense on the first play of Baltimore's ensuing possession just 12 seconds later. Midway through his rush, Bass tipped a Joe Flacco pass intended for Vonta Leach back into his own hands and romped 24 yards for the touchdown to tie the score at 10.

    Coming into the game, the Bears held a 24-2 record since 2005 when they score a defensive touchdown, including 10-consecutive wins under those circumstances. Now they're 25-2 with 11 in a row.

    Defensive letdown: Even after Bass' potentially game-defining play, the defense slumped on Baltimore's next possession, allowing Flacco to go 5-for-5 for 47 yards on a drive capped by a touchdown pass to Torrey Smith. Defensive end Julius Peppers added to the letdown with a 15-yard penalty for hitting Flacco as the quarterback attempted to slide on a play during the drive. Peppers appeared to slip on the play, which led to the contact.

    Season high in a half: The Bears committed seven penalties for 61 yards in the first half alone, which was enough to set a season high for penalties and penalty yardage. The most the Bears had been penalized prior to Sunday was six times for 43 yards in an Oct. 6 loss to New Orleans.

    The Bears only topped that by finishing with 13 penalties for 111 yards. Normally, that gets you beat.

    What's next: The Bears review film of Sunday's game on Monday before taking the day off Tuesday and beginning preparations Wednesday for the first of back-to-back road games starting with the St. Louis Rams.
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    learned that the rumors were true, Ravens receiving core is awful.
    learned that Conte can't even cover an old man like Dallas Clark.
    learned that when push comes to shove, there ain't that much difference between a 20 million dollar qb and a guy that was coaching high school football a couple years ago.
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    I'm assuming you didn't watch the game, because Flacco threw that to where ONLY his player could catch it. In those situations, it's the QB being really good.

    Um, no. The Ravens have suffered a lot of offensive injuries this year.
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    a young athletic man should be able to cover an old slow man in a clutch situation. Nuff said.



    and the Bears haven't. Riiiiiiiight.
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    1.) you've turned to hypothetical reasoning, to avoid a factual argument. Nuff said.

    2.) outside of Cutler, name all of the starters we've lost to injury on offense. I'll wait.
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    Well to be fair, weather and wr core have a lot to do w/neutralizing a 20mil qb 8p, but point taken.

    Balt also had 20 more O plays then the Bears did. It really did make a huge difference in that Bass Int for a TD. Bass had a huge game, so did Peppers.
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    you're misinterpreting. take a deep breath.
    We're playing with a bunch of back-ups and practice squaders on D.
    And that's the best their 20 million dollar man can do? I'm not impressed.
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    Bears O: Alshon is the real deal. Josh held up well. We still need some more work on the o-line in the offseason to improve the run game.
    Bears D: Rookies stepped up today both Bostic and Bass. Hopefully there is more to come with both of these rookies. Bowman nearly lost the game (several times) for us. Peppers should play every other game. This week he wasn't sleep walking.
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    yeah, the OL is pretty good, but I's like to see it elevate itself into a top line. We do need more gelling, and probably one or two new players. One for sure.
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    TB, I agree Bostic and Bass had big games on D, we flat stole Bass off the Oak PS, what he was doing there I don't know, but I'm glad he was.
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    Dion Pitta, their starting TE, is on injured reserve
    Kelechi Osemele, one of their starting Tackles, was out for the game
    Marlon Brown, one of their starting WR's was out for the game

    That 20 million dollar man's hands have been tied much of this season because of that.

    McCown played better than Flacco, no doubt, but if you say Flacco doesn't impress you, then you HAVE to take injuries to his offense into consideration. Also, don't say "well, we have a lot of players injured, too" to justify saying McCown is more impressive, because the Ravens have as many defensive injuries as we do.
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    Honestly, Flacco has never impressed me a whole lot. Don't get me wrong, he is good and he won a SB, but he is not a dominant QB IMO. When you compare the two, both teams had their problems with injuries, and quite frankly McCown was just as good if not better. Arguing this whole thing is pointless. People have their own opinions, but I think it is safe to say that we are getting a better value out of McCown than the Ravens are getting out of Flacco. Is that politically correct enough for everyone to agree on?
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    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/11/17/bears-beat-ravens-23-20-in-ot-after-long-delay/

    Bears Beat Ravens 23-20 In OT After Long Delay
    November 17, 2013 5:34 PM

    CHICAGO (AP) — The Chicago Bears had to wait out a long rain delay and put in extra time to come away with a much-needed win.

    Robbie Gould kicked a 38-yard field goal to lift the Bears to a 23-20 victory over Baltimore Sunday in a game delayed about two hours by a torrential downpour.

    Justin Tucker tied it for the Ravens with a 21-yard field goal at the end of regulation.

    The big delay came after Tucker kicked a 52-yard field goal with 4:51 remaining in the first quarter. Fans were ordered to take cover. Players headed to the locker rooms as heavy rains and winds whipped through Soldier Field. They emerged about two hours later with the sky clearing and the sun coming out, but the rain and wind returned in the third quarter, turning the stands into a sea of ponchos.

    Gould won it with a 38-yarder on third-and-8 with 8:41 left in OT, and the Bears (6-4) came away with the win after dropping four of six.

    They were leading 20-17 with 10:33 remaining in regulation after Matt Forte scored on a 14-yard screen from Josh McCown, dodging three or four defenders along the way, but the Ravens (4-6) made one big push down the stretch to send it to overtime.

    They drove from the 16 to the 2, getting a one-handed catch from Dallas Clark on a fourth down at 44. After Joe Flacco overthrew Torrey Smith in the back of the end zone on third down, Tucker tied it at 20-all with 3 seconds left.

    McCown threw for 216 yards with Jay Cutler sidelined by a high left ankle sprain. Alshon Jeffery had seven catches for 83 yards. Forte added 42 receiving and 83 rushing.

    Julius Peppers had two sacks. David Bass returned an interception for a touchdown, and Jonathan Bostic set up a field goal by Gould at the end of the first half with an interception.

    The Ravens were able to get their ground game going, with Ray Rice rushing for 131 yards and a touchdown against a team that’s struggled to stop the run. But Flacco had a rough day, throwing for 162 yards and getting picked off twice.

    The Bears scored 10 points in a 12-second stretch in the second quarter, on a 20-yard field goal by Gould and a 24-yard interception return by Bass. He picked off Flacco at the line and ran untouched to the end zone, Chicago’s fourth interception return for a TD this season, but Baltimore immediately answered with an 80-yard scoring drive.

    Flacco lofted a 5-yard scoring pass between two defenders to Smith to put the Ravens back on top, 17-10, with 4:08 left in the half. But an interception at midfield by Bostic with a minute left led to a 46-yard field goal by Gould as time expired, making it a four-point game at the half.

    And what a strange half it was.

    Play was stopped just after 12:30 p.m. CT and didn’t resume until 2:25. There were reports of at least one tornado touching down in Illinois and extensive damage in at least one part of the state. At Soldier Field, long lines formed in the upper deck as drenched fans tried to make their way toward the tunnel with lightning striking near the stadium.

    The rain was so heavy it looked as if the Chicago skyline was gone. Fans in suites and reporters in the press box were ordered to move away from the glass. At one point, a spectator ran across the field and got tackled by about three or four security guards before being escorted away.

    Fans were finally allowed to return to their seats at 2:07 p.m. CT as the skies temporarily cleared, and they let out a big roar when Bears players started trotting onto the field three minutes later. The rain made for a messy field, with players slipping and sliding.

    (© 2013by STATS LLC and Associated Press. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of STATS LLC and Associated Press is strictly prohibited.)
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    http://scores.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/recap?gameId=331117003

    After nearly 2-hour delay, Bears outlast Ravens with OT FG
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    Bears Edge Ravens In OT

    CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears had to wait out a long rain delay and put in extra time to come away with a much-needed win.

    Robbie Gould kicked a 38-yard field goal to lift the Bears to a 23-20 victory over Baltimore Sunday in a game delayed about two hours by a torrential downpour.

    Justin Tucker tied it for the Ravens with a 21-yard field goal at the end of regulation.

    The big delay came after Tucker kicked a 52-yard field goal with 4:51 remaining in the first quarter. Fans were ordered to take cover. Players headed to the locker rooms as heavy rains and winds whipped through Soldier Field. They emerged about two hours later with the sky clearing and the sun coming out, but the rain and wind returned in the third quarter, turning the stands into a sea of ponchos.

    Gould won it with a 38-yarder on third-and-8 with 8:41 left in OT, and the Bears (6-4) came away with the win after dropping four of six.

    They were leading 20-17 with 10:33 remaining in regulation after Matt Forte scored on a 14-yard screen from Josh McCown, dodging three or four defenders along the way, but the Ravens (4-6) made one big push down the stretch to send it to overtime.

    They drove from the 16 to the 2, getting a one-handed catch from Dallas Clark on a fourth down at 44. After Joe Flacco overthrew Torrey Smith in the back of the end zone on third down, Tucker tied it at 20-all with 3 seconds left.

    McCown threw for 216 yards with Jay Cutler sidelined by a high left ankle sprain. Alshon Jeffery had seven catches for 83 yards. Forte added 42 receiving and 83 rushing.

    Julius Peppers had two sacks. David Bass returned an interception for a touchdown, and Jonathan Bostic set up a field goal by Gould at the end of the first half with an interception.

    The Ravens were able to get their ground game going, with Ray Rice rushing for 131 yards and a touchdown against a team that's struggled to stop the run. But Flacco had a rough day, throwing for 162 yards and getting picked off twice.

    The Bears scored 10 points in a 12-second stretch in the second quarter, on a 20-yard field goal by Gould and a 24-yard interception return by Bass. He picked off Flacco at the line and ran untouched to the end zone, Chicago's fourth interception return for a TD this season, but Baltimore immediately answered with an 80-yard scoring drive.

    Flacco lofted a 5-yard scoring pass between two defenders to Smith to put the Ravens back on top, 17-10, with 4:08 left in the half. But an interception at midfield by Bostic with a minute left led to a 46-yard field goal by Gould as time expired, making it a four-point game at the half.

    And what a strange half it was.

    Play was stopped just after 12:30 p.m. CT and didn't resume until 2:25. There were reports of at least one tornado touching down in Illinois and extensive damage in at least one part of the state. At Soldier Field, long lines formed in the upper deck as drenched fans tried to make their way toward the tunnel with lightning striking near the stadium.

    The rain was so heavy it looked as if the Chicago skyline was gone. Fans in suites and reporters in the press box were ordered to move away from the glass. At one point, a spectator ran across the field and got tackled by about three or four security guards before being escorted away.

    Fans were finally allowed to return to their seats at 2:07 p.m. CT as the skies temporarily cleared, and they let out a big roar when Bears players started trotting onto the field three minutes later. The rain made for a messy field, with players slipping and sliding.

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    I think it's safer to say the Bears are getting their money's worth on offense, than the Ravens. I think, just as Tucker must be excused for losing so many of his defensive players, Flacco must be excused for losing several of his targets.
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    Was this the longest delay of a game in Bears history????
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    My Ravens friends now hate me since I Final could not hold it in once the Field goal was made!!!!!

    I might not be invited back :(
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    depends, where they being assholes the entire game as they were winning? if they were classy the whole game, and you went full jerk on the final play ya you deserve not to be invited back...but then again it might well have been worth it either way ;p
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    Meh, they'll get over it. I've rooted for the Jets against the Bears in 1997, 2002, and 2006(to explain, in 97, the Jets needed to beat the Bears for the playoffs, in 2002, the Jets needed to beat them for the playoffs and.....have a chance at drafting Palmer, and in 2006, they had home field advantage, and the Jets needed to win to get into the playoffs). Any of my Bears fan friends that were angry with me for rooting for the Jets were ignored until I threw it in their faces that the 2002 Bears winning cost them a chance at the number one spot and that the 2006 Bears were GUARANTEED a first round bye, anyway. They got over it.

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