yeah, 68. I think because of current improvement, a lot has been glossed over. Trestman comes in with LOTS of new players and a COMPLETELY new system and they performed well from the beginning. Getting better as the season goes forward. He even lost his starting QB, and the beat goes on. Tucker comes in and has most of the previous starters. He pretty much keeps everything the same. He puts out crap. People get injured, and the crap continues (can't fault him much on that though). Things are better, but they are not good. The Ravens OL is not dominant. Stopping GB without Rogers is something that almost all of the rest of the NFL can do. If anyone thinks that things are really getting all that better, we will find out if Rogers is back for our last game or if we get into the postseason. We simply can not stop the run. We don't put pressure on the QB if they have a good OL, and we have a lousy secondary. Other than that, the defensive group have been stellar :) In all seriousness, I am not understand the willingness to accept excuses for him, but it seems prevalent. What I am concerned about is that next year when we are healthy again, all we will have an average D, or at worst another year of underperforming D before something is done. I do not see Tucker as a real defensive architect that is going to field an innovative, suffocating D. I really was hoping for Trestmans's defensive counterpart, and in no way do I see Tucker being that man, even at best. Ric has been saying that we need to see Tuckers own D next year. I have two problems with that. (and understand that I respect Ric's opinion) 1). This IS Tuckers defense. He had the option of installing any D he wanted. He elected to install the one that had the smallest learning curve with the most chance to be dominant since it was before. HE chose this D. If he couldn't make something work that has worked for 5 years, how much luck is he going to have trying to get a different system installed? 2) He had a healthy group here for a little while. That keeps getting glossed over. Why did he not have any success? He was new? So was Trestman. And Trestman changed everything. Tucker did not. I just do not see the value in this guy. But that's me. Do I think he will be here next year? Absolutely, almost without a doubt because he has gotten every pass in the world with his injuries. Do I think we will have a dominant D next year or he will get all he can out of whatever new players we bring in? No. Prove me wrong Mel. Hopefully, I am way off base.