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  1. Henry Burris

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    No. There are no excuses for the defense. I see your side, but this offense has played EXACTLY THE SAME in all 3 of our losses, and in 3 of our wins. Jay's a 4th quarter QB, because he can't get his **** together earlier. This defense is trash, but this offense is doing them ZERO favors. The only excuses I'm seeing are for a player that "just needed an offensive line and WR's". Well, we're all in agreement that he's finally got them, but yet, he can't manage to get the offense going in the first half.
     
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    Yes, but the offense wasn't blazing 80+ yards for a touchdown either, were they?
     
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    Im not saying the offense is perfect, but at least they are improving, the arrow is pointing up, not down.
     
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    No, they were not BUT yards isn't the measure. Points is. How many 80+ yard drives have the defense givin up this year? How man did they give up this game? That also plays into them being tired. How are we on third and long? We're giving up 3 and 8s a lot this year. The offense wasn't great or really good but they put up 41 points and lost. That tells me something
     
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    Agree completely, and I think this coaching staff WILL eventually iron out the problems, BUT, the main problem with this offense is the inability to score early on.
     
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    I have seen some bad Chicago Bear teams in my day... 3 win seasons, 4 win seasons... But even with Wandsted, Juaron, Lovie, etc... I've never seen a Bears team give up this many points and yards week in and week out... They are giving up huge points and yards to bad teams... Vikings, Steelers, Giants, Redskins... Teams with horrible records... I know there are injuries but I think its time to scrap the Cover 2 defense... Its basically a prevent defense hoping that the opposing O makes a mistake that causes a turn over. There is no scheme to that... That's High School defense... The Saint TE carved us up... but NE kept him in check...Why you say? Actual scheme on the Defense to take him out of the game... Not just drop every five, ten yards back and play for picks... And what do you know... Get tourched by a TE again on this game. Safteys are always back too deep which allows gashing runs... Then safteys are not even playing the way they are supposed to being back there.... Mike Brown call up Conte and coach him up... Nice job on O but hey doesn't matter when your team is giving up so many points and getting worse every week... I dread that MNF against Aaron Rodgers will be a shoot out again... OK... I'm done ranting... Carry on gentlemen.
     
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    I'm not talking about yards, as in "look at how bad our stats are", I'm mentioning them, because this offense can't manage going down the field, like any other offense we face.
     
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    This offense isn't facing our defense every game lol. Any way you cut it we need to get better on both sides of the ball. I'm of the opinion that 41 points should net you a win every week in the NFL. Thats provided your defense can just make some stops. Hell, make ONE when you have the lead with a couple mins to go and all else is forgivin.
     
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    Absolutely agree. It seems like we're arguing where there isn't any disagreement. You and Jimmors, for example, are saying "How bad is our defense, that we can't get off the field, or make a turnover", where Ric and I are saying "Where the hell is the offense earlier in games?" In the end, it doesn't matter when or where the scoring is happening, as this defense is just bad. Our defense is unarguably our achilles heel, but our offense isn't helping us early.
     
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    I will concede that the offense looked much better after Cutler was hurt, but I will attribute it more to the rest of the team stepping up their games, including McCown. Frankly, the Bears offense didn't give Cutler much of anything to work with in the early going,..receivers dropping passes, lousy blocking & missed assignments. On the flip side, I enjoyed the support they gave the next man up, in McCown. It was too bad the defense was so damn awful! I have hope the Bears can win some games with McCown if Cutler is out for a while, perhaps even sneak into a wild card. Anything more, with that lousy defense (injuries noted, but it wasn't great to begin with,...) is asking a lot, in my opinion.
     
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