Chicago Bears 2014 Draft

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  1. jackiejokeman

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    Ric lets hope we get even more young guys in F.A. and the draft on D. Lets hope he can get the vets back up to speed also.

    These were the same players pretty much from one year to the next and they fell apart.
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    D.J. Williams

    Nate Collins

    Kelvin Hayden

    Henry Melton ,

    were taken off of I.R.

    How does this affect F.A. and the draft ?
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    It dosent IMO, Melton will likely be gone and nobody on the list has a big enough impact to change our draft strategy.
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    Williams and Collins/Melton would have made a pretty significant impact last year in not being the worst Bears D in history, might have been close but not THE worst. Melton/Collins going down really hurt the squad, and DJ/Briggs going down after that put guys in a position to fail(ie Bostic/Greene). B/c of DJ/Anderson the LB's were actually making plays, getting sacks(something you rarely saw in a Lovie D), and although they struggled to stop the run, the pass game wasn't killing you.

    Those the ones JJ mentioned Melton/DJ are the ones I'd want back, and only at 1-2 year fairly reasonable deals.
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    D.J. Williams by geting hurt opened the way for the LB drafftees sooner then later and it looks like he may not be needed.
    Thats up to Halas Hall.
    I'd keep Melton. Did Hayden ever do much of anything ? Collins seemed to be a once or twice a game type guy.
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    Louisville S Calvin Pryor (several videos in the link)

    by Matt Waldman

    One of my favorite football players of the past 15 years began his college career as a corner, but finished it playing both safety positions and earned a first-team All-America selection. The 39th overall pick in the 2000 NFL Draft, he started all 16 games a rookie. Although he lost the Defensive Rookie of the Year Award to teammate Brian Urlacher, the linebacker often said that it was Mike Brown who was the true leader of the Bears’ vaunted defense. Brown will turn 36 tomorrow. Due to a series of leg injuries, the two-time All-Pro didn’t have the career longevity that will earn his former teammate Urlacher a good shot at the Hall of Fame. However, Brown had all the tools of a fine NFL pro: intensity, intelligence, and the versatility to play in the box or patrol the deepest outposts of the passing game. So when a player earns a comparison to Brown, it gets my attention. Current Texas defensive coordinator Vance Bedford was Brown’s position coach from 2000-2004. Before Bedford moved with Charlie Strong to Austin, he was the defensive coordinator at Louisville working with junior safety Calvin Pryor, a player Bedford compares favorably to the former Bear.

    "He had three games in a row where he hit somebody and they did not finish the game," Bedford told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "He doesn’t want to injure anybody, but he brings a certain physicality that if you’re going to throw the ball down the middle of the field, you’re going to pay a price ... Calvin Pryor reminds me of a bigger Mike Brown ... He was a coach on the field ... That’s what makes great players. Understanding the entire defense. Calvin Pryor is a lot like that."

    I read this quote from Bradford after watching the 6-foot-2 Pryor against Central Florida, Rutgers, and Connecticut. A colleague of mine recommended I watch Pryor in September and I’m late to the draftnik party. However, I understand why there are teams that have Pryor ranked higher than Alabama’s Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. The asset I value the most from Pryor’s game is aggression. He treads the fine line between disruption and recklessness, which can scare some evaluators. However, good safeties take great angles in a hurry. It’s a skill rooted in confidence and belief in what the player sees on the field. With notable exceptions where a player demonstrates a lack of overall football intelligence, I prefer an aggressive player with diagnostic skills that a coach can refine over a player who sees valuable keys but doesn’t trust his eyes. When considering the past path towards assertive play, I’d pick aggression over passivity as a football player’s behavioral baseline a majority of the time.
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    I like Pryor and mocked him in my first draft. If we don't end up with CD for whatever reason, Pryor could be a hell of a 2nd rounder and quite possibly a day one starter.
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    He opened the door no doubt, unfortunately Bostic slammed it in his own face, Emery has already stated that Bostic is looking more like an OLB and not the envisioned MLB.
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    I like Pryor also, hell Purifoy or Jean-Baptise also in round 2
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    I just watched highlights on Calvin Pryor....WOW! I want him in Navy & Orange! Where is he projected at this point?
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    He's one of the top S's in the draft, we're talking 1st or 2nd round right now.
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    That makes me wish the bears could shore up some of the D-line through FA so they could possibly get Pryor with the their first pick. That guy is unreal.
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    Hey Ric we still have Lance Briggs.

    mshu7 they talk about shut down cornerbacks .. how about a shutdown Safety ? Emery got us an Offense,can he do a Defense ?
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    Inside Slant: Salary cap carryover numbers
    February, 13, 2014 Feb 139:30AM ETBy Kevin Seifert | ESPN.com
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    January brings us the NFL playoffs. March takes us into free agency, April (usually) holds down the draft and May ushers in offseason workouts. February? For the most part, it is the NFL's month of accounting.
    (Oh, and the annual scouting combine, but that's not until next week. Work with me here.)
    Yes, we have arrived at the time of year when even casual fans are interested in the salary cap, the otherwise mind-numbing monolith that generates a flurry of player moves in February and early March. All teams must be under the NFL's mandated cap total, likely to fall between $126 million and $128 million, by March 11.
    I always hesitate to pass along team-by-team salary-cap figures given how fluid they are at this time of year. But the fourth column of the monster chart in this post provides a decent estimation of how much work each team has (or doesn't have) in front of it. You can see the range of cap commitments runs from the massively strapped Dallas Cowboys ($152.2 million) to the bare-bones Oakland Raiders ($67.8 million). Keep in mind that each team must save between $3 million and $7 million for signing its draft class, based on draft position and number of picks.
    The chart, however, is sorted by another figure I wanted to highlight. "Projected carryover" is a relatively new term in NFL salary caponomics, created by an addition to the 2011 collective bargaining agreement that allows each team to roll over unused cap space from one year to another. (Previously, teams resorted to tricks such as "phony bonuses" to push excess into the following year.)
    The carryover must be declared in writing before the end of the regular season, so you can assume that the figures in the chart -- provided by ESPN's Roster Management Tool -- are reasonably accurate estimations.
    The easiest way to think about carryover is to add it the NFL's official salary cap number. Say the 2014 cap number is $127 million per team. The Philadelphia Eagles technically were at $123 million when I grabbed these numbers late last week, a total that would put them in compliance but might not even be enough to sign their draft class. Because the Eagles are carrying over $17.2 million in space, however, their actual cap spending limit will be about $144 million.
    All but three teams are projected to carry over some space, but only half the NFL's 32 teams will bring more than $2 million in additional cap funds into 2014.
    Carryover totals aren't necessarily an indicator of quality cap management, nor do they necessarily reflect an unwillingness to spend cash. No one was more aggressive on the free-agent market last year than the Miami Dolphins, and they are still projected to carry over $18.1 million in extra space for 2014. I present these numbers mostly as a utility to help you get a better grip of where your team will stand after the dust settles in March.
    Some of you might look at the larger carryover numbers and wonder how those teams are in compliance with the NFL's minimum spending requirement. Keep in mind that the league's calculation for minimum spending comes over four-year periods, the first of which began in 2013. Teams must consume 89 percent of the NFL's total cap allotment over that period. In other words, no one is out of compliance yet.
    The numbers:
    2014 NFL salary-cap estimations
    Team Contracts Projected carryover 2014 current cap value
    Source: ESPN's Roster Management System
    Cleveland Browns 66 $24,537,568.00 $105,310,400.00
    Jacksonville Jaguars 64 $19,645,313.00 $96,517,190.00
    Miami Dolphins 49 $18,064,000.00 $111,882,727.00
    Buffalo Bills 63 $17,801,975.00 $125,092,434.00
    Philadelphia Eagles 58 $17,169,768.00 $123,409,964.00
    Green Bay Packers 58 $9,820,459.00 $109,697,531.00
    Cincinnati Bengals 62 $8,663,480.00 $111,300,523.00
    Tennessee Titans 59 $6,953,561.00 $126,946,609.00
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers 60 $6,769,781.00 $122,600,429.00
    Denver Broncos 63 $6,400,000.00 $127,230,112.00
    Carolina Panthers 57 $6,012,268.00 $123,542,554.00
    Arizona Cardinals 58 $5,750,007.00 $122,454,920.00
    New England Patriots 66 $4,106,801.00 $126,515,381.00
    Atlanta Falcons 53 $3,129,200.00 $116,987,321.00
    Seattle Seahawks 54 $2,845,004.00 $129,763,780.00
    Kansas City Chiefs 68 $2,381,518.00 $128,222,574.00
    San Diego Chargers 59 $2,319,341.00 $130,578,011.00
    Oakland Raiders 51 $2,250,000.00 $67,757,080.00
    San Francisco 49ers 64 $2,175,038.00 $121,197,319.00
    Baltimore Ravens 46 $1,531,423.00 $115,952,323.00
    Detroit Lions 52 $1,474,552.00 $132,769,422.00
    New York Jets 57 $1,473,437.00 $107,728,879.00
    Pittsburgh Steelers 63 $1,352,450.00 $140,100,516.00
    Dallas Cowboys 62 $1,280,693.00 $152,201,383.00
    Houston Texans 60 $1,114,730.00 $125,111,520.00
    Minnesota Vikings 54 $812,317.00 $103,755,495.00
    Chicago Bears 47 $746,727.00 $121,967,001.00
    Indianapolis Colts 58 $607,906.00 $92,903,156.00
    New Orleans Saints 52 $500,000.00 $140,357,008.00
    New York Giants 52 $0.00 $117,121,817.00
    St. Louis Rams 53 $0.00 $125,682,768.00
    Washington Redskins 62 $0.00 $114,236,847.00
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    Yeah I like Pryor and what he can do. IMO C-D is flat out better so maybe we get extremely lucky and land him in the 2nd (possibly small trade up like for Alshon) if we miss on C-D.

    A 1,2 of Jerrigan/Pryor would be awesime.
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    what's your point? We have a glut of OLB's, you're correct, that doesn't make one of them an ILB. Bostic cannot play ILB and just b/c we have Briggs doesn't mean that you play him out of position by keeping him at ILB.
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    Just pointing out we have alot at one position (LB) so no need for more. And what do you think of this for HC for Redskins ?

    Dave Toub
    Current Position: Special Teams Coach for Kansas City Chiefs
    Specialty: Special Teams
    • Started his coaching career at the University of Texas-El Paso. His first year was as a graduate assistant and the next two as the Strength and Conditioning Coach
    • He spent the next 9 years as the Strength and Conditioning Coach at the University of Missouri, where Andy Reid was coaching the offensive line. After those 9 years, he spent 3 years coaching the defensive line.
    • His first NFL job was with the Philadelphia Eagles as a Special Teams/Quality Control Coach in 2001
    • In 2004, Toub was hired as the Chicago Bears Special Teams Coordinator
    • In 2006, Toub's special teams sent Robbie Gould, Devin Hester and Brendon Ayanbadejo to the Pro Bowl
    • In 2007, Toub signed a 3-year extension with the Bears and was voted Special Teams Coach of the Year by his peers.
    • His special teams unit were at the top of the league in 2006 and 2007. For 8 years, the Bears special teams were ranked in the top three.
    • In 2011, Toub interviewed for the Head Coaching job for the Miami Dolphins but ended up signing another extension with the Bears.
    • When Lovie Smith was fired, Toub interviewed for the vacated position but the Bears went with Marc Trestman. Toub chose to reunite with Andy Reid in Kansas City instead of staying with Bears
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    JJ, we have a lot at 1 sub position at LB, OLB, we have 0...none, sans MLB. It's a huge hole that needs to be filled.
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    I never saw McClellin as a DE, I saw him taking MLB from Urls, but that hasent worked. It also hasent been tried yet either.

    Agreed theres ahole,but in the past when Urls was hurt sombody was a MLB. Thing of it is,its a hole that may have to wait unless somthing comes up.

    Dl and Safety have to be addressed first. Unless somthing comes up out of the blue,one of the LB's already on the team are going to have to be MLB.

    To me that means D.J. Williams gets a second wind.
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    And we dont even know yet if we are going to play a 4-3.

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