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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by JustAnotherBearsFan99, Sep 27, 2013.
Kyle Long is the old Soldier Field Suh Trap in human form.
Funny you brought that up WNML. I was thinking about that old thread from the CBMB just this morning :-)
Every time we play the Lions at home I root for Suh to fall into a Suh trap. I'm like, "C'mon, shitty field. Pay off for us for once."
I don't think anything would make me happier than watching Kyle Long stymie Suh all game long without having to double him. Suh would get so pissed he undoubtedly would lose it and make a big mistake, hopefully landing him a suspension. I will not deny his talent, but I can't stand his play.
Suh plays just like the old time players used too. Apparently some of you who are so butthurt about Suh's play aren't very familiar with some of the dirty play of the '85 Bears. Wilber Marshall was a head hunter. Dan Hampton was known to ring the bell of opponents. Singletary was a head hunter, similar to Chuck Cecil. I really don't think some of you guys have a clue as to how 'dirty' some players from the past have been.
Suh is a great player. Plays the game the right way. A lot of dirty shit happens on the field that many cameras don't catch. Which is why he does the things he does.
You forgot about Plank and Fencik, but none of them were dirty players. They were gritty and tough hitters, but not dirty.
Well, players cannot play the way they used to Mr. D.
The 85 Bears didn't stomp on other players.
No they didn't. But even Plank, Singletary, Fencik, Butkis, Atkins ect. would all be suspended after a game of play in today's NFL
Within the context of their careers, I agree with you.
But how many of these plays would result in a fine or suspension in the current NFL?
I didn't mention Plank or Fencik because I don't consider them dirty players, by any stretch of the imagination.
That's all fine and dandy Benji, but I would hardly call Suh a dirty player. Maybe the more feminine NFL fans of today swallow the anti-Suh propaganda, but I don't consider him a dirty player at all.
I agree it was a different time, they all played within the game rules of their time. They did not commit cheap shots like stepping on players or cutting someone at the knees when they were outside the play. Those are dirty plays.
So, stomping on a players head AFTER THE WHISTLE is clean? Dropping elbows, diving at players knees..... that is as clean as Sunday's laundry?
Suh is a dirty player who threatens players careers and livelihood. And I really don't care what happened "back in the day" with old timers from the past. I do care about our key Bears players on THIS team getting cheap-shots that can end their season, or even their career. Jay Cutler, as a QB, is very vulnerable to one of these kind of injuries. Long is too, if Suh blows one of Kyles knees out on purpose. When Suh loses his temper (and we've all seen this for years now, on multiple occasions) he pulls this dirty stuff. It's clearly outside the lines of simply playing the game with a passion. He plays to hurt and injure in these circumstances.
He's bad for the game. Goodell needs to sweep him out of the NFL.
I have said this before, and will say it again.
Suh is a tremendous player. If he ever cut out this cheap shot, dirty play... he could be one of the best.
I saw very few if any plays that would be flagged even in today's environment. Fencik lead with with head but contact was made with the right shoulder on majority of the hits. Also I have not heard him having any recent head injury related issues. But maybe he does because who wouldn't want be part of $700 million settlement.
I thought his career was ended by a major concussion. I did some internet research and it looks like he had 15 reported concussions. This was well before the current concussion protocols, so any number is probably low.
The point of my post is that Doug's entire style of play while perfectly acceptable in the late 70's and early 80's would be severely punished today. Head to head contact, spearing, hitting a defenseless receiver were all part of his repertoire.
I am not calling Doug a dirty player. It is just that he probably wouldn't make an NFL roster today. Without the aggressive play, he is too small and too slow.
If Long and Mills hold up this was a awesome draft, even without Bostic who has a good chance to be a top MLB. Hell if you get one quality starter every draft you are doing good, we might have 3.