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    I can't pinpoint an exact date or game, but at some point in the last 2-3 seasons, he has become the best corner in the NFL.
    Played his guts out today. Literally.

    Peanut ---- we thank you!
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    Hub is a joke that guy hasn't gotten one thing right this year about this team. I get way better insight from you guys here.
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    Not True DaTree, Hub has only been wrong on Long as an OL, but even he's come out and said he was wrong about the kid...and in fact said that he is stunned at how well he and fellow rookie RT Mills have looked...which has also proven correct. He was pretty positive about how Trestman would make the O look legit also. People that hate on Hub don't tend to like the fact that he's normally hard on the Bears...well in the past he's had every right to be, and has normally been correct in his critism. The Bears have far underachieved in recent years.
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    For you that think Hub is critical of the Bears, Berstein and his partner have damn near been vile towards Trestman.

    Bernstein: Put To Test, Trestman Responds
    September 8, 2013 4:28 PM

    By Dan Bernstein
    CBSChicago.com Senior Columnist

    (CBS) — Marc Trestman had waited his entire professional life for the chance to make that kind of call.

    He had coordinated NFL offenses before, but never with final say, and never with the ultimate responsibility for success or failure, except in a strange league far away. For the first time, his name was on it.

    At 8:32 of the fourth quarter, the Bears had driven to the Bengals 27 yard line and faced 4th down and inches to go. They trailed by four points, having just come up with a signature takeaway after Tim Jennings popped the ball from receiver Mohamed Sanu. A Cincinnati timeout provided time to consider the options.

    The offense was showing signs of stabilizing despite inconsistent run-blocking and a what-was-he-seeing interception by Jay Cutler, who nonetheless had responded with a pair of 15-yard strikes to Brandon Marshall and an instinctive 18-yard scamper on second and 20 from near midfield.

    Even if the opponent is trying to give you the game, you have to take it when it’s time.

    Trestman would deflect the credit to nominal offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer after the game, saying “Aaron did a good job with the play selection.” But that’s the head coach’s voice in Cutler’s helmet, and the head coach’s neck on the line. Nobody knows that better than Trestman after his time as such an apprentice.

    In his first critical in-game decision as Bears head coach, he counted on four new Bears to take on a defensive front believed to be among the best in football. Offseason acquisition Martellus Bennett shifted toward the right edge, and fullback Tony Fiammetta set up in the backfield in front of Matt Forte. Not only was he undeterred by the presence of two rookies starting on his remodeled offensive line, Trestman instead ran right behind them.

    Fifth-round pick Jordan Mills blocked down from right tackle as first rounder Kyle Long deftly pulled out and around, with Bennett successfully engaging the six-technique. As Fiammetta angled ahead to clear room outside, Forte timed his bounce to the edge to gain eight yards to the Cincinnati 19.

    Next play Cutler found Marshall singled up against a safety, and hit him in the end zone for what would be the winning score.


    Even with all the talk of his intellectualized offensive innovation, Trestman chose old-fashionedpower stuff when it mattered most. It worked, executed by first-year Bears working for a first-year head coach. In the kind of need situation where a team looks to exploit a specific, perceived advantage at the line of scrimmage, it was keyed on the rapidly-developing Long, who is causing even the most skeptical observers to be open to possibilities for him not previously considered.

    And this wasn’t a mere half of flashy offense versus the Raiders in the forgettable blur of the exhibition season, but solid enough play against a team believed to be a playoff contender primarily due to the strength of its aggressive, physical front seven. Something about the performance and the outcome actually matters.

    Jay Cutler was not sacked in the game. There were no pre-snap penalties against the Bears.

    You can read that last part again if you want. In fact, my laptop asked me if I was sure I wanted to type it, flagging it as a syntax error. The combination of timed passes, improved protection schemes and upgraded talent had a positive effect.

    The Bears blocked, and eventually tackled. They won the turnover battle and were only whistled for four infractions.

    Marc Trestman projected the demeanor of an experienced, methodical game coach, looking as comfortable as could be expected upon returning to an NFL that has evolved since his Canadian sojourn.

    It was just a play, in just one game, but it’s a start.

    “Ballsy play call,” Cutler said. “That’s what ‘Trest’ is about.”

    A run right, run right.




    Most fans think the analysts and reports hate the Bears, they'll w/a solid win streak they'll start to see a lot of positive press and say the press are all idiots and now have to eat crow and proof is in the positive articles. But the reality is the Bears are a media cash cow and they'd love nothing more then to write glowing articles on the franchise; they've just not had much to write about b/c the QB play has been sub par, the in game coaching has been bad and the only thing really positive to talk about after most games has been the D; and in a O driven league that just doesn't go over well. Bring in Trestman, who looks like he might have got Cutler to legitimately buy into his theories on Football, and you now have a QB worth talking highly about, a HC who makes good in game decisions and a D that is still really damn good.
    If the Bears go into the 2nd qtr of the season 3-1(got to assume they'll lose 1 of the next three, Pitt's tough Minny could still cause problems and the Lions can put up a ton of points and have a solid D also, not to mention the Bears are still learning what they are) and the media will be glowing about them. The team looked better in this game then they did most of last year. After that Indy blow out I wasn't glowing about the team like many were, after a squeaker today I'm far more satisfied that this team could be legit.
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    Hub wasn't the only one. I never dreamed these two could perform at this level in their first NFL debut game. I really didn't.

    Hub has irritated us Bears fans by just telling the unvarnished truth about past Bears teams/players - and being right. But most of the time, us fans, were in total denial, and Hub was right when he was realistically critical. The truth sometimes hurts.
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    Hoge: Armed With Protection And A Smart Game Plan, Cutler Delivers
    September 8, 2013 5:53 PM

    By Adam Hoge-

    SOLDIER FIELD (CBS) Ballsy.

    That’s how the quarterback described his new head coach and play-caller after the Bears’ 24-21 season-opening win over the Bengals Sunday.

    “Ballsy play call,” Jay Cutler said. “That’s what’s Trest is about. He’s going to roll the dice.”

    That’s right. Marc Trestman already has a nickname and a reputation after just one game in Chicago.

    But Cutler’s analysis of the decision to go for it on fourth down at the Bengals’ 27-yard line with 8:32 left in the game is spot on. It wasn’t just that the Bears went for it (they needed less than a yard) it was that the play called for a Matt Forte run to the right side — the side with two rookies making their first NFL start.

    “(Trestman) believes in us on offense,” Cutler said. “The way those two guys were playing up front — really all five of those guys — we could have called pretty much anything we wanted.”

    Right guard Kyle Long and right tackle Jordan Mills got the job done. Forte patiently waited for the blocks and then bounced to the outside, gaining eight yards on the play.

    On the very next snap, Cutler hit Brandon Marshall for a 19-yard game-winning touchdown, giving the Bears their first win under their new head coach.

    Trestman said offensive coordinator Aaron Kromer actually came up with the play selection on fourth down, but it’s still the head coach that makes the call and relays it to Cutler.

    “It was the best play at the time,” Trestman said. “A game-defining moment — that fourth down — no doubt about it.”

    No doubt, the defining moment of Trestman’s first game as the Bears’ head coach. And a glimpse of what’s to come.

    But if you’ve been paying close attention to the way Trestman handles the roster Phil Emery has given him, the gutsiest call in the biggest moment Sunday wasn’t all that surprising. This is the guy who bounced J’Marcus Webb off the first team immediately upon witnessing what everyone else in Chicago had seen for over three years. And he had no problem sticking with the two rookies on the right side when they proved to be the best guys at those positions despite the inexperience.

    Those were quick, unwavering decisions backed up Sunday by trusting those rookies when it mattered most.

    What may be of greater importance though, is how the players — specifically Jay Cutler — reflected the steadiness of their head coach when they were down 21-10 in the third quarter. Trestman didn’t panic by getting pass-happy like so many Bears offensive coordinators before him. He patiently stuck with the run and called high-percentage pass plays to keep the ball moving. The offensive line stayed steady and kept their quarterback upright, which in turn led to Cutler being able to use his mobility to his advantage and complete a 30-yard pass to Martellus Bennett and a 24-yard pass to Matt Forte on the run. He also took advantage of an open hole right up the middle, running for an 18-yard gain on 2nd-and-20, which set up the “ballsy” play call on 4th down.

    “We were a little stalled and they were playing a little two-man there,” Cutler said. “The line was giving me time and there were gaps in there for me to run.”

    In the end, Cutler, who finished with a passer rating of 93.2, was never sacked Sunday and there were no pre-snap penalties.

    “You got to give those guys up front a heck of a lot of credit for this victory,” he added.

    And when’s the last time you heard Cutler have so much praise for the five big guys who line up in front of him?

    There is, of course, room for improvement on offense. The Bears only had 97 yards of offense in the first half, but part of that was due to an early conservative game plan that Trestman said was designed to keep Cutler comfortable.

    “I just wanted him to feel like we can get through the first quarter with this young line,” Trestman said. “Whatever happens, at least we know what we’ve got.”

    What the Bears “got” is an offensive line that is capable of giving Cutler a chance to take all that potential and turn it into production. The quarterback’s only major blemish was an interception that came as a result of his arm getting knocked as he threw the ball, and it was a play in which he made the right read and had Martellus Bennett open. Meanwhile, he completed a tough first half touchdown throw to Bennett in the back of the end zone and hit Brandon Marshall in the fourth quarter on an absolute perfect laser down the sideline for a 38-yard gain to help setup the game-winning touchdown.

    And, by the way, on that game-winning 19-yard touchdown pass, Marshall was the third-option. Cutler chose not to force a pass to Bennett down the middle and saw that the check down to Alshon Jeffery was jumped, but he had time to recognize that the corner blitzed, leaving Marshall one-on-one with the safety.

    “I didn’t understand it,” Marshall said. “Fourth quarter, with a safety on me one-on-one, I can only ask for that and dream about that.”

    But those are the kind of mismatches that come with multiple weapons like Marshall, Jeffery and Martellus Bennett on the field. Of course, it’s up the quarterback to make the right read and the offensive line to give the quarterback the time to make his progressions.

    And it starts with the coaching staff putting together a smart game plan and calling the right plays — something that, until Sunday, was a rarity in Chicago.
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    Hub might not have always been right in his thought process, but he's been right about the overall team. In the past several years the team has been average, at best. And he's mainly been critical about Cutlers very poor play and relationships w/the coaches and the horrid OL that never got fixed. And he wasn't the only one that was low on Long, a lot of posters and analysts didn't see Long as a great day 1 starting option.
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    Hoge’s Notes: Briggs Gives Trestman Game Ball
    September 8, 2013 6:31 PM

    By Adam Hoge-

    SOLDIER FIELD (CBS)) One team was steady and collected. The other was stupid and careless.

    It was just one game, but in Marc Trestman’s debut as the head coach of the Chicago Bears, his team’s play resembled the calm demeanor of the man in charge, a trait that appeared to help the Bears erase a 21-10 deficit and win 24-10.

    Trestman came in with a smart game plan that started conservative and ended with a gusty fourth-down call quarterback Jay Cutler called “ballsy”. The decision to run behind rookies Kyle Long and Jordan Mills on the right side of the offensive line on fourth down set up a 19-yard touchdown pass from Jay Cutler to Brandon Marshall that proved to be the dagger in an impressive win over a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

    So, naturally, the game ball the coach usually hands to a player was reversed. Instead, it was Lance Briggs who handed the game ball to Trestman, according to Marshall.

    “Coach Trestman — he’s a special guy. He really is,” Marshall said. “His hands stay steady. There’s no ups and downs. He’s special, man, and it was a great win for him.”

    Bengals Melt Down

    The Bears deserve a lot of credit for coming back Sunday, but the Bengals certainly did their part to help the cause.

    On top of turning the ball over three times, the Bengals were guilty of two crucial personal fouls, one of which effectively ended the game.

    The problems really started right before halftime, when Cincinnati decided to throw the ball on 2nd-and-14 from their own 8 yard line with just 59 seconds left in the half. The Bears only had one timeout left, so the incomplete pass allowed them to get the ball back with some time left on the clock.

    The time-management mistake became an even bigger issue, however, when Eric Weems baited Bengals cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick into a personal foul on the ensuing punt. That gave the Bears an extra 15 yards, which allowed them to try an ambitious 58-yard field goal.

    With the wind at his back, Robbie Gould nailed the kick — a career-high and Bears franchise record — with plenty of room to spare. Considering the game ended 24-21, that field ended up being pretty important.

    After the game, Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis was defensive when asked about throwing the ball on second down in that situation: “You want to pull our pants completely down and not plat at all right before halftime?”

    The problems for the Bengals continued in the second half as they burned through all their timeouts, using their second one right before the Bears’ big fourth down conversion and the third one immediately following that play. Neither timeout helped the Bengals as the Bears gained eight yards on 4th-and-1 before Cutler hit Marshall for the game-winning 19-yard touchdown on the very next play.

    But the most inexcusable of all the mistakes came right after the Bengals successfully stopped the Bears on third down and were going to get the ball back with under a minute left in the game. That’s when Bears right tackle Jordan Mills locked onto Bengals linebacker Rey Maualuga and frustrated him enough that Maualuga slammed Mills to the ground well after the whistle, drawing a personal foul penalty that gave the Bears a first down and clinched the win.

    “I wasn’t letting him go, so he kind of got mad because I was blocking him,” Mills said. “He’s a great player. He made a mistake. Even though I wanted to retaliate, I had to keep my composure.”

    Tillman Has Up And Down Day

    Charles Tillman lived up to his reputation as a turnover machine Sunday as he picked off Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton twice. However, he also had the tough task of guarding wide receiver A.J. Green and there were moments he’d like to have back.

    Green finished with nine catches for 162 yards and two touchdowns and made some incredible plays. Some of them resulted from mistakes Tillman made and others were just indefensible plays. Tillman was also guilty of a 34-yard pass interference penalty on Green that gave the Bengals the ball at the one-yard line and resulted in a touchdown.

    To his credit, though, Tillman kept Green pretty quiet in the second half despite battling dehydration though out the game.

    Notables

    - Defensive end Shea McClellin saw a lot of playing time and recorded the Bears’ only sack of the game.

    - Wide receiver Earl Bennett, who took a pay cut Friday, was only targeted once. He caught the pass for a six-yard gain.

    -Four active Bears players did not see the field Sunday: quarterback Josh McCown, defensive end Cornelius Washington and offensive linemen Taylor Boggs and Eben Britton.
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    This is so true.
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    14 points off T/Os...

    Cutler awareness/leadership by jumping in to ensure Mills didn't retaliate after he realized the Bengal PF flag...

    Priceless
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    To say they gave the Bears a gift is a joke. That's sports errors are always going to be made it's what you do with those errors when they occur. I have no problem with negative articles on Bears, I was negative last year when it was obvious the offense was never legit NFL O. Cutler had all the right to be pissed because those coaches last year had no clue what they were doing. Coaching is pivotal in football people that say it's the players that make the plays coaches can't play the game have no clue about football. Coaches in football are pivotal ask Cincy fans tonight on how their coaches performed tonight. That was us last year because we had the cluess coaches coaching. Ask the Saints how it feels to have their coach back. It makes all the difference in winning games like today we used to(past tense) lose these games because our coaches were always out coached not anymore boys.
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    "In the end, Cutler, who finished with a passer rating of 93.2, was never sacked Sunday and there were no pre-snap penalties."


    When's the last time you could say that about a Bears O? No sacks AND No pre-snap penalties?!?!?! Amazing

    DTB, no it's a fair analysis. And Hub and the others said exactly what you just did, the Bengals gave the game away, BUT what the Bears did w/it is what counts. That is the jist of Hub's article, that you didn't read, and same w/the others I posted that talk about that.

    The Bengals were sloppy and two PF's can be directly atributed to why they lost that game, that is not debatable. But the Bears HAD to take advantage of that, and they did.
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    Exactly the word that came to mind earlier...amazing.

    Now we get a taste of what may be the change needed in Cutler's game of bad decisions...protection.
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    Well it's more then protection Tarkus. Part of the reason he was protected is b/c he didn't hold on to the ball very long. that's not taking away anything the OL did either. But the HC's game plan was to get the ball to the open person quickly, and that's what Cutty did. He didn't hold onto the ball until he saw Marshal or another WR open, he threw to the spot he was supposed to throw to and he did it quickly....and that's the change that was needed, a HC that would get Cutty to learn to get rid of the ball quickly.
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    It's only week 1 of course, but I'm really not scared of Minnesota as a serious rival for the division. The Vikes are one player only and, as good as he is, it isn't realistic to expect him to rush for 2100 yards again. More importantly, Ponder sucks and is very limited (crap arm) even when he isn't throwing multiple picks.
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    Cincy's time mis-management, wasted TO's, and something-other-than-11-men formations looked a LOT LIKE LOVIE.
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    The Vikings are overrated like Detroit was last year, hence why they lost today.
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    Yes, sir...

    I think this will end up to be a sum of all parts...Trestman's mentoring like you said, WRs who can get separation/go get the ball, OL who allows for a calmer, more contained Cutler; in the pass & run.

    We could only go up from where we came. lol
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    Kind of an ugly win really ( some Bengals players made some of the DUMBEST decisions I've ever seen ) but there were some bright spots so .... it's a W and it's a start and I'll take it .
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    Tired already from reading elsewhere outside of here of how the Bengals gave away the game on the last PF.

    Sure, it would have been tense but some forget that we were taking that game by what we did defensively/offensively. If anyone was on the down swing late it was them...not us.

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