Chris Williams Bigsy article

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    I have high hopes for him. He brings a nice package of skills and experience with him and having been invited to "Brandon's Boys Club" down in Florida to train and for a little indoctrination into what it means to be a Bears WR can only help with his maturity and transition into the NFL. I'd love to see this kid become a big play guy for us both on offense and as a returner.

    I feel I have to put another plug in for Brandon Marshall too. As one whose saw him in the earliest years of his career here in Denver and now with the Bears the transformation in him as a person is nothing short of a miracle. He could always play and he always did no matter who he was with. He has too much pride to it any other way. But the "person" he is now is just nothing like the one that existed when he was in Denver. Shocked wouldn't be too strong a word but pleasantly surprised sound a lot better. We really lucked out when we got this version.

    No matter what CWill the second does or doesn't do he'll never replace Devin or the thrills he provided in my heart. In that place there can be only one and I do hope he breaks that record for good and has a prosperous end to his career and then comes home to hang it up as a Chicago Bear. The Bears have had a lot of firsts as far as their HOF players go but no one has ever made the HOF purely as a return specialist and I hope some day that Devin's reward for his career with the Bears. I don't think anyone will equal what he's done.
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    DGAF. One of the only things that I'm raw about is not retaining Hester. I understand, common sense-wise why they didn't pay him, but I just can't find a way to cheer for anyone that replaces the GOAT.
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    Recently read a piece about Sir Alex Ferguson, the retired manager on Manchester United. It listed his many skills that kept ManU on top for his entire tenure and one of those skills was a willingness to part with a veteran star the moment an age related decline in skill was noticed. He would get top value for the vet, pick up cash or a bright young kid and ManU would just keep on rolling. As cruel as it sounds, winning teams aren't built on sentimentality.
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    sure, but Sir Alex is a first-class bastard
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    Yup, a first class bastard with a wining team and now a teaching gig at Harvard.
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    sure, no doubt about it, a great manager, but im sure u can be something in between. For example, Mourinho excellent manager and his players love him, Sir no so much.
    Dont get me wrong, dont like Mourinho
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    Exactly. Players get paid great money while they can deliver for a team. It's about the team, not the player. This isn't a charity. That may sound harsh, but most of us are in the same situation. If I can't perform my job I am no longer going to have a job. Nobody is going to pay me, just to be "nice" to me. That's just the way it is in life.
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    But JABF99, where is the loyalty? Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Seriously, modern professional sports in all areas and on all levels is big business. For the teams, the leagues and the players. And expecting anyone involved not to act out out of self interest is unrealistic.

    I don't know if this is the best way for it to be but it is the way it is.
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    I agree & LOL about the loyalty jab. :smile:

    We also (as fans) forget that the coach has his own neck on the chopping block if HE doesn't produce. I was thinking recently about the Trestman honeymoon. Watch what happens if the defense stinks this year, or worse, if Lovie Smith takes his new team to the playoffs and we have another 8-8 season looking up at the Packers backside again. Fans love ya if you win. Hate you if you are a loser.
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    Actually, that is not really what Ferguson did, he brought his share of Vet's and sometimes missed badly. He usually parted with 'older' players cos they could not stand him anymore and he couldnt force himself on proven names. Hardly a perfect manager really. Would u like him as a boss?
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    Good to know.

    To be honest I've never even heard of the guy, so was just going from the posters comment. I do understand keeping your best players and moving on from those who can't help you be the best. Recently in a thread we were talking about coaching vs player talent. Coaching is important, no question. But a team needs to assemble the solid player talent too. If letting a veteran player go, makes sense for the betterment of the team, then that's a no-brainer in my book. You play the game to win. Not to be "nice guys" and keep players around that are not your BEST option. I'll be honest here. I'm always reading stuff where folks criticize Bill Belichick as being a driven ruthless guy trying to win each year. Frankly, I have no problem with that. This isn't youth football (although our defense sometimes tackles like youth football guys). You play to win.
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    im all for that! its great if coach is about wining the problem is if he has 'favourites' or 'dislikes', something we had here with Lovie, exactly what im talking about. Sir Alex made a few judgments based on his personal relatinship with players, but unlike Lovie he had results to back him up. But also, always had one if the biggest mney banks behind him.
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    Ya, the 2013 value for ManU was 3.17 billion so I'd say he had the financial backing to make moves. Bottom line, Ferguson won consistently and when he left, ManU started to slide. They're still one of the better teams in the EPL, but not a dominant force.

    Getting back to poor ol' CWill, an interesting article in the Toronto Sun about the recent CFL acquisitions by the Bears and in it Trestman states that these were Emery's decisions. The Bears are always scouting the CFL, so Trestman, like other coaches, gets to see the results of the scouting. Apparently he's not feeding the process, he's standing back, letting Emry and the staff do their thing.

    Also in the article, apparently they were after Williams for a while and he was playing hard to get. He ended up with a $100,000 signing bonus which means he'll get a good workout at TC. Not a camp fodder signing.

    BTW, I can't see the Chicago Tribune article since I don't have a Zip Code, so this may have already been mentioned and I missed it.
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    I hear ya' Henry and I was sad to see it happen too but looking at it another way is that he's getting over 3x as much from Atlanta this year as we would have been willing to pay even if the offer had ever been made. He's getting $3.5 mil guaranteed and in his pocket this year alone so even if he's one and done that's a nice retirement package to go out with. He didn't earn a whole lot of the back end dollars on that deal JA signed him to because he was never the #1 WR that deal would have paid him if he was.

    I wish him well even though I think it's a crime he never got to finish his career out here and if there wasn't such a huge need to restock that defense maybe it would have been different but he was just getting to be too costly to afford. Emery and Stein are squeezing ever buck they can to raise cap space. Hell, the cut Weems took only added $270k in cap space but like I said in another thread if he saves that much on five guys that's one more million dollar deal he can offer or use later for an extension.

    I may not like it but I'm finding a way to get used to it because it's far from over. A whole lot more guys will be let go over fewer dollars then they ever would have while JA was still in charge.
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    Great! Is it time to start nominating the top bastards around here too???
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    It is chuckster and has been for a very long time. Many of our fathers or grandfathers worked for the same companies for 40 years or more and were kept on out of loyalty even as their skills faded. Now if you're with the same outfit for five years you're an old timer. Every employee on the planet is looking over their shoulder and if they aren't they should be.

    Veteran NFL players watch their teams drafts with great interest because that's where their replacement may be coming from and forewarned is forearmed. I don't deny that it lifts the level of competition but this last CBA has made it far more financially advantageous to keep the cheaper rookie that even the older vet who may be getting 4 or 5 times as much.

    Guys like Weems can see the handwriting on the wall. The Bears didn't give CWill the 2nd a $100k signing bonus to leave NOLA and bring in Hixon just to create competition for him as a returner or WR. And the DBs they signed have far more utility as position players then he does as a WR. He'll collect his $100k workout bonus and his camp pay and be gone come September.
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