Coach sugar-coats Peppers & McClellin poor performance...

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  1. MPbears68

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    Lol @ Shea being listed at 260. They fed us that bs to insinuate he could add another 10 in the weight room and be a real DE. It wasn't until TC this year that we learned his real (ideal) playing weight is about 245-250.

    The Bears need to convert him to LB and stop this nonsense.
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    Correct. Peppers and McClellin have 1.5 sacks combined, and Bears rank near last in NFL in sacks and only about 100 yards less than Giants in total yards allowed for last place in NFL. That's the backdrop for me asking them to play CornWash and Bass -- at least enough reps to see how they perform. Then we will have comparative data to decide which of them, if any, is a keeper for next season -- that is the context for my "next season" reference.
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    It's hard to argue that the DL could get any worse (both pass rush and run D) by playing a few rookies.
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    For comparison, Chandler Jones the 2012 NE Patriots 1st round DE has 9 tackles and 3.5 sacks this year. Let's play some of the younger talent that are more suited to DE.
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    No, my implication is that the coaches are playing Peppers & McC because as bad as they are right now, they are STILL better than the talent that is sitting on the bench. People want to see Corn-Wash, but perhaps the coaches know something we do not. In fact, I damn well guarantee that they do.

    My implication, that despite how badly fans want to see Corn-Wash, perhaps they know that a Corn-Wash at 100% is not as good as what we currently have.

    Make sense, or shall I break it down even further for ya my friend?
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    LOL, you mean the guy we all wish Emery had selected instead of Shea? :(
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    I agree. The coaches are putting the best players we have on the field, so we can win. We are still in a good position at 4-2 to make the playoffs. So we don't want to give up on the season and play a bunch of crappy young players who may cost us a playoff spot. Yes, the DL is not good. Don't kid yourself. It can always (always) get worse, if we just turn the season into a summer training camp situation for green undrafted rookies.
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    That was exactly my thought process.
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    If Shea is one of our best DLmen vs the run, then we aren't going to stop anyone.

    Btw, with Aldon Smith out, the Niners are playing a rookie DE (Lemonier) who is balling out there
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    yep... and yep....
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    You'd like to think that if a player is not getting a sniff of the field, that there is a good reason for that situation. It would be pretty crazy to keep your best players on the bench (or practice squad).

    The situation is bad enough as it is with the existing starters. I'd hate to just throw in the towel for the season and play bad players, just to get them "development" time. Heck, some of those guys may not even be in the NFL a year from now anyway.
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    That's going to depend on whether or not JA, Tice and Lovie get back into picking players next year
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    If you are a DE and you can't stop the run or get to the QB, what else is there?
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    He should have been an OLB from the get go. He'd be good there.
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    Shea likes to play DE mostly from the ground. Or after being swept 5 yards past the QB. Its the new way to play the position.
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    The only time I would argue that a better player was on the bench would be after Toe lit it up in 2007, only to be benched until 2009, when he continued playing well.
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    Funny....Dallas has 3 of 4 DL starters out tonight and is still getting pressure on/sacking a highly mobile QB in RG3. We had a highly immobile QB behind a shit OL on Thursday and barely wrinkled his uniform.

    Of course, they do have Hot Rod.
    Hmmmmm...
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    I really thought they drafted Shea to eventually play ML and I believed all the hand in dirt was BS talk. He is no more design to play DE as Hester is #1 receiver. Just look at his build and athleticism it's what he's built for ML. Watch his previous work in college anything else and you're just wasting the poor kid's time on the line. He could easily be better then Roach at that position.
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