Consensus of 19 Mocks Say Bears 1st Pick Is?...............

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    I understand what you are saying, but I see ILB and S as not very deep and if you want to get a potential starter I think you need to take them first. There will still be decent DT's in rd 3. Sutton, Quarles, and Ferguson and 2 of the 3 will prob be there, maybe all 3. I do not have a trade down in this. If not ILB you can look at CB in 2 or go DT in 2 and CB in 3. I just see more options to match are needs by picking DT later. I am not trying to get in an argument either, just stating my opinion as I see it. I trust Emery to identify the talent and with the depth in this draft I see us capable of filling multiple needs and the deep class of DT's allows us to take one later and get extra potential starters. There is no guarantee any of the picks will pan out, there is as much likelihood of a first rd DT failing in the NFL as the much as there is for any other position, but the likelihood of a DT in rd 3 compared to other positions seems more likely to succeed based on the depth at that position this year. That is my logic and reasoning.
     
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    Decent, sure. But I want GREAT. Games are won in the trenches. Having a great line is better than a decent line. A great line will make a decent secondary look good. A decent line will make a decent secondary look decent at best.

    Fix the line and everything behind them looks better
     
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    I agree and if Donald was the size of Hagemann it would be a no brainer, but Donald will not win every battle, even winning 10% of them says you need the other guys 90% of the time
     
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    I still build up the lines first
     
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    so with 30 defensive plays a game that would be 3 sacks a game x 16 = 48 sacks for the yr. (we all know that is not realistic.)
     
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    This may not be as simple as saying we want a great DL and our defense will all look better. Having a great DL is important. Nobody here is arguing that. The question some have is will Donald result in our DL being great. Maybe. Maybe not. And while a DL certainly can make the players behind them look better, it also goes the other way. Those players can make the DL look better too. There are 11 players on defense. The four DL are vitally important. So are the other 7 players behind them.

    This reminds me of when we got Cutler. Some acted like it was a done deal that the offense was going to shine. The trouble was that there were 10 other guys on offense - and they were not so hot. No Lombardi's that way. We had to elevate the overall talent on offense for something meaningful to happen.
     
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    Well, as you say... those are sacks and too high at that. How many others will the QB be pressured into making a bad throw or having to throw it away or having the deisgned play get blown up for no yardage.

    Add ALL of those up. An effective DL can (and should) make ALL of those things happen. Basically keeping the offense on its heels and not alowing them to play their game. You keep them from scoring as much as they want to while being able to score often with your O wins enough games for you.
     
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    I agree in the sense that I trust Emery to make the right evaluation of the risks in choosing certain players and positions while having a decent degree of confidence of who might be left and whether or not those guys can also add enough to the roster to make the risk viable.

    I am with you in the sense that because I trust Emery, even if he does something different that I think is thr right course of action (like what I want really even matters anyway) I will be happy with it. Or at least give it a chance.
     
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    Since that is the consensus, I suppose we should expect the Bears to pick someone else.
     
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    Cleveland has two first-round picks. They could draft receiver Sammy Watkins fourth overall and look to grab a quarterback to throw to him. Cleveland can look to aggressively hold off another team looking to get back into the first round. What if the Bears first chose is off the board, would you trade down with Cleveland. It would cost the Browns their 26th overall pick in this year's draft and the third pick in the second round. This trade would be a win for the Bears, who need two defensive starters. Of course this only works if we feel that one of our next two guys will be there at 26.
     

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