Cornelius Washington

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    Okay, but what has Washington actually shown, that would make us think he's starter, or even rotation worthy material?
     
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    Turn the question around. How do we know what he can do until he gets a chance? One thing we DO know is what McClellin has done in 6 games. I trust I don't need to go over that with you. So, I say we don't have much to lose by rolling the dice with CornWash. Just give him some reps. I'd settle for splitting time 75/25 with McClellin at this point. Do you have a problem with that?

    Bearstuff is a UGA fan who knows more about CornWash than any of us, and he says CW is a much better run stopper than Shea (which ain't saying much!).
     
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    You didn't answer my question. Just because McClellan hasn't performed up to snuff does not mean that Washington is suddenly NFL worthy. Just because he performed well at the college level doesn't mean anything. He's a late round pick, and has been inactive for a reason. Has he performed well in preseason or practice, to warrant a spot, is the question to ask, not "well since McClellan isn't playing well right now, why not him?" Peppers isn't playing any better either, so the burden of proof, in relation to playing him, is on anyone who claims he needs to be played.
     
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    If you are playing draw poker, and you are dealt 5 crap cards, do you stand pat or do you draw 3 cards? Is it logical to stand pat because you don't what the 3 cards will be? No,you draw because you have nothing to lose.

    To answer your question, I did see CornWash in a couple preseason games. He played well against Raiders. Granted, it was against second team, but he did have a sack and some QB pressure. He has excellent speed and strength. As Bearstuff says, he does need to work on technique, but for a rookie, there is no substitute for getting some real game experience. Next man up!
     
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    Oakland's first team is garbage, let alone their second team. Also, using rhetoric to justify playing a player that just might not be ready to play just yet is not a solid foundation for running a football franchise.
     
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    maybe it's just me, but I trust the guy in my Sig to know if he is ready or not...
     
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    Isn't "ready to play" a relative term? The assumption is that Trestman thinks CornWash is not ready to play better than McClellin. From his public comments about McClellin, I think Trestman has a borderline delusional view of how poorly McClellin is playing. That may be contributing to why CornWash isn't playing.
     
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    "Isn't ready to play" means, not good enough for the field. You were using a poker analogy that really doesn't hold water. Trestman is with the team every day, I highly doubt he's overlooking something anyone on this board is noticing. Until the coach activates him for a game, he's obviously not as important as the other players they're playing. If you haven't gotten a good measure of the persona Trestman projects publicly, then I will tell you this: he has given no indication of being the type of guy to throw anyone under the bus. Maybe Washington is ready against the Packers, maybe not at all this season, but rushing a player that hasn't shown his position coach, coordinator and head coach any indication he'll be of better help to them, probably isn't a good thing.
     
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    Cornwash needs to stay balanced (don't over extend) and use his hands better than he did in college to succeed in the NFL. I feel like he's getting more in the way of coaching from the Bears staff than he had at UGA. What worries me the most about him playing in the NFL is that he will be up against the best run blocker on the line in every game. He can be a very good pass rusher, and likely a decent run defender if he can get his fundamentals down (balance at point of attack & use of hands).

    Scouting report:
    Overview
    Washington was named to the 2012 Butkus Award preseason watch list prior to the season, despite lacking much starting experience. That’s the sort of respect that those who know college football have for his physical attributes and potential as a pass rush force.
    Washington was a top-150 national high school prospect out of Georgia, but still redshirted his first season on campus. He played in every game of the 2009 season, starting one and making 13 tackles, five for loss and four sacks. As a sophomore, he started eight of 12 games played (missed one due to a concussion) and was credited with 24 tackles, three for loss, and a sack. It appeared he was on his way to a big season in 2011, starting three of the first five contests before being suspended two games due to an October arrest for speeding and driving under the influence (he received community service, alcohol/drug education program, probation). He finished with six starts in 12 games, with 17 tackles, six for loss and five sacks. Washington's senior season didn't match up to the preseason hype, as he only managed 22 tackles (3 for loss), and half of a sack.
    Analysis
    Strengths
    Tall, versatile defender who flashes excellent get-off to challenge tackles as a pass rusher with his hand on the ground or standing up. Possesses great length, which he uses to powerfully extend into blockers and to wrap up a leg on a ballcarrier running away from him. Flashes hands to rip off blocks from overextending tackles and tight ends, as well as the quickness to shoot inside to penetrate the B-gap to disrupt plays. Makes a big hit when head-up on the ball, and can use his long, strong arms to create turnovers.
    Weaknesses
    Often used as a third-down presence instead of a starter because of the team’s depth and scheme. Doesn’t own a counter move or the second effort to get past a solid block; teams need to see better stamina and hustle before projecting him as a starter. His height and average flexibility cause him to change directions relatively slowly on the edge and in the backfield, meaning he loses out on opportunities to make plays. Needs to prove his agility in coverage if asked to regularly take on receivers in man.
    NFL Comparison
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    Bottom Line
    A tall, long defensive end/rush linebacker who hasn’t been able to break through quite yet, but flashes the strength and quickness (10 career sacks) to be a factor. The production has never been there, but Washington's flashes and potential will likely result in a team selecting him to contribute down the line.
    They see it a little different than I do, so take my opinion w/ a grain of salt.
     

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