cowboys release ratliff

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  1. beardownboilerup

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    He is a defensive tackler. Our DL sucks..... and our DTs cannot get the job done.

    Bring in everyone you can
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    then again.... reading this

    Not sure he is worth the trouble, despite our desperation at DT
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    C'mon. He got in a fight with JJ. How many players/ coaches were cheering him inside.

    Things here are not a circus. The Bears need help at DT. Peae is coming back soon. Woot on could kick back outside and switch Peppers and McClellan if it's run or pass.
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    It is the lack of logic I am concerned with.

    Just after a teammate drives drunk and kills another teammate, you are going to go ahead and get a DUI?

    Lack of logic, common sense is what I have an issue with.
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    Ratliff is on the downside of his career (he hasn't been good in a couple years) and he's also been hurt. Not to mention the behavioral stuff. I realize than anyone you sign at this point is going to be somewhat of a turd player but I'd rather take a chance on a young guy like Austin who's talented and physically capable but has had motivational underperformance thus far. Maybe just maybe being cut a few times has changed his attitude and work ethic a bit. Probably not, but at least there's a chance at upside there which there isn't with Ratliff. I doubt emery is at all interested in JR.
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    Ratliff is the kinda turd we need to take... Unless you find a hidden gem (doubtful) you flush it the end of the season.

    Those that do, do... we would only get those that "might" do in season.

    Unknowns have less upside than the "has beens" at this point, IMO. UDFA's and practice squad prospects have more long term benefits but you'd be dang lucky to see any filled position not significantly decline for the games that matter right now.

    My unpopular opinion in the matter is that the staff's energy would be better spent adjusting how were are using the people we have instead of counting on a new addition. If Emery can pull a rabbit out of his hat, you take it... besides that, 1.) Adjust 2.) Promote from within and keep using the next man up philosophy.
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    Jay Ratliff's agent says unrealistic expectations set by calling injury a sports hernia. Said groin muscle ripped off bone, tendons torn.

    His production was steadily dropping off and this injury now essentially ends his career.
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    I would work out Austin and sign him if he checks out physically. Even to the PS. The guy does have potential if he gets his attitude in the right place and starts working harder. And we will need depth at DT going forward (I'm thinking beyond this season alone). If he continues sucking, cut him loose next year in preseason and nothing is lost.
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    We actually need depth at DT, right?

    I think Im in agreement with most here, we do not need another Pace.

    Austin is still out there, so he is not going to demand anything other than a Vet Min I would think.
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    Bearstuff Yes, in the woods. Staff Member

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    For Ratliff, if he can even make it back to the field, or for Austin we would need a strong locker room leader on defense to set the tone and set the expectations. As much as the coaches would like to think they set the tone, it's the player's buying in & more importantly THE player buying in to set the tone.

    I'm not sure we have that player (and even if we do in Briggs or Tillman) and I'm not sure we have the buy in.

    Therefore, I view the risks to be greater than the rewards on either of these two guys.

    That said, if we sign either, my only response will be "grab the reigns and get to pulling".
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    Ratliff's agent came out and said his client can't play at all this year so that's the end of that.
    Austin is still worth a look as a possible depth player for the future. If he gets lazy or cops an attitude, insta-cut.

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