Cutler Ranked as 17th Best NFL QB...............

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    Jay Cutler ranked 17th among his peers

    By Lester A. Wiltfong Jr.@wiltfongjr on Jul 2 2014, 11:30a 131
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    The parade of off season lists rolls on. This time the folks over at ESPN wrangled up a bunch of "insiders" to rank the quarterbacks in the NFL for their Insider section. We have a sneak peek right here.

    When ever you grant someone anonymity you can be sure to get their true feelings on a subject. When you don't have to put your name on something, there's no fear of backlash. Of course that also allows someone to spew some personal venom on someone that they otherwise wouldn't share, but you have to take the good with the bad.

    Mike Sando, ESPN NFL Insider, recently spoke with 26 anonymous league insiders and asked them to rank the starting quarterbacks in the NFL on a 1-5 scale. One for the best, and five for the worst. Then Sando grouped the QBs into four tiers. We can't bring you all the details since the article appears behind a pay wall, but we will bring you a few nuggets relevant to the Chicago Bears.

    The anonymous insiders he spoke with were eight current general managers, two former general managers, four pro-personnel evaluators, seven coordinators, two head coaches, two position coaches and a top executive.

    The top tier had the four usual suspects along with Andrew Luck. The second tier had ten QBs listed including Joe Flacco at 12 and Matthew Stafford at 13. I mention Flacco because of this interesting anonymous evaluation.

    "Flacco would be a guy that you probably either love him or hate him because he's a big guy, probably not the most mobile guy, and he's kind of got the droopy face, kind of like the Jay Cutler face, where it always looks like things are bad," an offensive coordinator said.
    Remember when I said that with anonymity you have to take the good with the bad? I should have also added idiotic to that.

    Tier three is where we find Jay Cutler and his sad face grouped in with eight other QBs. Here's the expert analysis on Jay.

    I thought Cutler would fall into the second tier based on his talent, but 16 of the 26 voters put him in the third. They lamented Cutler's inconsistency, poor mechanics, proclivity for turnovers and abbreviated postseason résumé.

    A few evaluators thought Cutler took a step forward last season and could progress further now that the Bears' offensive line has stabilized. "For me, it's all about how impactful a player can be on game day," one GM said, defending Cutler. "The reason Cutler is not a one is because he is too up and down. But you talk about a guy that can beat you with his arm, and how many in the league can do it better than him? Now he finally has a line in front of him, he has more than one receiver. So, there is no way he is a three, in my opinion."

    The Bears' failure to protect Cutler in past seasons arguably justified what some have seen as the QB's negative body language. "I don't know the kid," a defensive coordinator said. "I like him as a player. He runs their offense very well, he can make any throw, I think he has some toughness to him, some cockiness to him. He is as good as Matt Ryan. He's a two."
    The offensive line has been improved, he does have more weapons around him, and he has a coach that knows offensive football. Every time Cutler has stuck with the same system he's improved in the second season so I'd expect the same to apply in year two of the TCO.

    Since we can't show you the entire list, we'd like to know if you think Jay will move up or down in the eyes of the anonymous experts next off season.
     
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    I don't see Jay Cutler as a third tier QB but I'd be more than pleased if the rest of the NFL saw him that way. I can understand why they've ranked it this way based on past performance but lower that Matthew Stafford???? Come on man!

    I don't really care whether he moves up or down in the eyes of these anonymous selectors. All I care about is the Bears winning games and to do that Cutler will need to be sharp. Trestman and Cavanaugh believe he his so that's all I need to believe.

    So who are the 16 QBs these guys consider better than Jay. What do you all think?
     
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    #17 is too low imo, because that would mean Romo, Newton, Foles, Smith, Dalton and Ryan are better than him. And I completely disagree with them.

    When healthy Cutler is a top 10 QB, he's tough and he's also got the strongest arm in the league. Don't care what everybody says.

    These guys are better than Cutler imo:

    PManning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Luck, Kaepernick.

    Guys on the same level as Cutty: Rivers, Romo, EManning, Ryan.
     
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    Fack that......body language.....if I got hit anywhere half as much as he was knocked down, I'd prolly be up on serious charges. To expect anyone to have his head held up high and bearing a shit eating grin all the time he was picking out grass from his gear, we'll we would all then accuse him of being a simpleton.....I hope he comes out this year and throws that ball as hard as hell each game he plays a team that had his number in their faces..just drill it into their helmets and show em all WTF it is like attacking an angry Bear!!!!
     
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    I can't disagree with the top four but IMHO Cutler is in the next ten somewhere. Stafford of all people has definitely not outplayed him nor Romo, and of late I'd even question taking Rivers or Rothlisberger over him.

    Like I said I can understand why they may have ranked him as they did based on his past but going forward? No way. There really isn't a better arm in the NFL and all we've been waiting for is his head to catch up. I think it finally has.
     
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    Here are 15 guys I bet they ranked ahead of Jay…
    1. Ryan
    2. Flacco
    3. Newton
    4. P. Manning
    5. E. Manning
    6. Stafford
    7. Rodgers
    8. Luck
    9. Brady
    10. Brees
    11. Foles
    12. Roethlissberger
    13. Rivers
    14. Kaepernick
    15. Wilson

    Who am I missing?
     
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    Romo is most likely the name the "experts" put up there that isn't on your list David. Even though I wouldn't put him ahead of Cutler, the perception is that he is better.
     
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    McCown? j/k
     
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    Yes, for sure Romo. That gives us 16.

    If the Bears offense performs the way we are all hoping and expecting this year, Jay is going to move up in this ranking.
     
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    Exactly and that's what this is mostly about. Jay is "perceived" as being an under achiever so he gets demerit points for that whereas Romo who was an UDFA is seen as an over achiever and gets bonus points for that. But when it all comes down to it none of that matters. Jay has the talent he just needs to win more and now that he has a team to do it with that should happen regularly.
     
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