Cutler Ranked as 17th Best NFL QB...............

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  1. JJ-30

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    I love the way they base everything on the years Cutler had worthless OCs and no O line and midget WR that didn't even know how to run a passing routes.
     
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    Yeah no kidding.. honestly The Sheriff, Brees, Brady, Luck and Rodgers are the only ones who I think could most likely perform better in similar circumstances. These guys have never had to deal with horrid receivers and awful OL and incompetent OC's. Maybe one of three, or maybe a bad backfield, but besides that no one has had to deal with the trifecta of awful that Cutler was inflicted with during the beginning of his tenure with us.

    You put the majority of NFL QB's in Cutlers situation he's had with the Bears thus far and they're all struggling, throwing loads of picks, having bad body language, and most are probably on IR more often than not. I'm not saying Cutler is an all time great NFL QB.. but for what he's done with what he's had to work with I don't understand how anyone can hate on him as hard as they do. People look at the DL last year (myself included) and say wow, how could any LB/DB's succeed behind that train wreck of a line? That's what Cutler was doing on the other side every single game until last year. He had pressure in his face constantly and, with good reason, had zero trust on the plays there was somewhat adequate blocking. He didn't even have a legitimate WR until the season before that. If he sucks all year this year then maybe the Cutler doubters are right, but you can't compare someone working with Rashied Davis and Devin Hester while their blindside is blocked by J Webb and are trying to learn a new offense every other year with guys who don't have any business being OC's with someone who has good WR's and adequate blocking or OC's who know how to.. ya know.. coordinate offenses.

    I think Cutler is going to dominate this year, and maybe even get tossed in the MVP talk. This offense is primed to blow the hinges off of some defenses and if our defense can live up to it's potential we should have a deep playoff run. I love our offense. I'll put B Marsh and Jeffery over any duo other than perhaps Roddy and Julio. But our OL is better than a lot of others and they should only improve. Plus I love Forte in our offense, I think he breaks his career highs this year, he was dominating towards the end of the season and I think his momentum continues. If this defense can do its job and stay above a 15 ranking, we should have one hell of an offense.
     
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  3. soulman

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    JJ and Chi kudos to both of ya' That's exactly what their opinions are based on and not on leveling the playing field for all of the handicaps Cutler has been under. Put in him in NOLA for the past four years or better yet let Rodgers swap places with him and then let's see how it turns out. As it turns out before Trestman came along the best OC he had was Ron Turner and that's not saying much.

    Cutler consistently stated his preference for bigger receivers yet who did he get? The only regular who even hit 6' was Bennett and he missed about half his career with injuries. We got him a tall TE and then JA turned around and traded him because Martz didn't want him but Martz never stuck around. Maybe JA should have thought of that before he sent the only receiver we had over 6'2" packing.

    There are no more excuses for Jay and he knows that too but he also knows now that the team is behind him 100% and that with the tools he's been given he needs start winning the big games now. No more outs. This is the first year of the rest of his career and up to this point it's all been about getting to this point. Now it's time to produce like a top ten QB and silence the critics.

    I don't know if anyone heard the Donavan McNabb interview they posted on CSN but he said that Cutler was the luckiest guy in Chicago to have gotten the deal he got without having to prove himself. What a jerk. McNabb is luckier to have even be in the NFL at all the last two years of his career and he's been bitter about not finding work ever since. Even Minny didn't want him and as QB poor as that team is that doesn't say much for McNabb. Even more ironic is that there career stats are pretty comparable and yet McNabb played on much better teams.

    I think he's just pissed that the Bears would even give him a sniff back in 2012 when he was looking for a job. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but his comments about Jay's deal were completely disrespectful. I don't think anyone will be asking him to stop by to say hello to anyone. :crybaby:
     
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    Jay has the potential to be a top-tier QB. And we all know there are mitigating circumstances as to why he has not been a top-tier QB. But he's in his 9th season and now is surrounded by talent as good as any QB in the NFL has, so it's time to show he can live up to the hype.

    Is Jay a 3rd tier QB? I don't know. I do know that he hasn't proven himself to be a top-tier guy yet. Loads of promise though. But it would be nice to see himself finally prove to be the QB we've all hoped he would be.
     
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    Amen brother and I'll step out and say I believe we saw that process begin last year when his stats were the best he'd put up since he came to the Bears. If he'd played all 16 games he would like have had 30 tds or more and that was in his first year in that offense and playing behind a relatively green OL also in their first year together. The tools are all there now he just has to pick them up and use them.
     
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    Trestman seems to have saved Cutlers career if he turns it on this year, if Cutler ends up being what we think he can be then his "legacy" will be looked back as turning around when Trestman arrived. Imagine if he played out his career under Lovie, poor dude. Really I suppose he has Emery to thank in the grand scheme of things, since he proud Trestman (and weapons) here. I think it's super obvious the difference in Cutty, as overused as it is he's really "bought in" to the system and that makes a world of difference. He trusts the guy calling the plays and has the weapons to execute them. He has confidence in the system and that changes everything. His mechanics are better. He gets the ball out quickly. He spreads it around more. He has control over that offense and I expect great things. Even this year people are saying that he's looking even better than last year, holding the ball higher and the little things like that. Should be fun.
     
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    I'm gonna look at it more like Trestman jump started Cutler's career which had kind of stalled out here. Cutler has incredible talent and intelligence but we weren't giving him much of a shot at using all of it before now.
     
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    Cutler might be better but so far he havnt really shown it yet. This year will make the make or break for Cutler imo. This time he has weapons, an Oline and a coach with an offensive mind that can think. Stay healthy Jay and better INT to TD ratio.
     
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    Comes down to his injury concerns and his meltdown games. This year I think will define the rest of Jays career and how he will be remembered as a player. He has to stay healthy and has to avoid the meltdown games in order for us to really be successful.

    I think 17 is about right for right now. This year he is in the perfect position to leap into the top 10 but those 2 glaring issues are the only thing that can hold him back.

    Only time will tell.
     
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    Even if Cutler won a SB I don't believe he would move up very much on this list. Once media turns on you it's very hard to move that opinion to the upside ask Lebron.
     

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