cutler really a giant puzzle

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    As much as I love the thought of Blanchard being our guy, if he hasn't pushed aside McClown yet or earned a spot on the roster I doubt he goes anywhere. Yeah I know he got hurt.
     
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    BiH, I'm not talking about this season. JC is the QB this season barring injury. I'm talking about the contract decision for him this coming offseason. There's no point keeping Jay around after this year (which will cost big money) if he's not the guy to lead you going forward. And QBs who repeatedly shit the bed in winnable games aren't worth wasting time and money on.
     
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    MP, while I don't disagree, I point you towards Dallas and SD and Romo and Rivers; I point to you the fact that Carson Palmer is still starting in the NFL and Josh F'n McCown is still a backup. Romo and Rivers were also paid big money. Cutler might well not be the long term answer but b/c Emery was unable to trade back, he was unable to draft for a possible future and therefore Cutler might well, unless Cutler just tanks 1/2 a season and I don't see that, be the answer for the next 1-2 years even at the exorbanant cost it will take to keep him.
     
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    Ric, I know Jones way overpaid Homo. Just like Baltimore was forced into overpaying Flacco after his killer postseason effort last year. I don't want to be one of those teams who way overpays a "B" quarterback just because they're afraid of change and the unknown. If the "Cutler franchise QB experiment" fails this year (and I'd say we are about 2 more thumb-sucking outings like today away from Emery concluding that), then Jay will be just another one of those failed starter-vets you love to rant and rage about.

    So why would you want to keep him? It would be time to take a chance on some rookie that Trestman sees upside in. There's no upside left in Jay Cutler if he can't purge himself of the very things Trestman is trying like hell to drive from his thick skull.
     
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    I don't disagree w/you, but I think Emery will. But I also don't think it would be just 2 more of such games either, I think it would take 3-4, and 2 or 3 in Div games against the likes of GB and or Det to really make Emery want to move NEXT year. Fact is teams are crazy and will overpay for 2nd rate qb's; and my problem w/the likes of Rivers Romo and Cutler is not their talent level, all have elite talent, what makes them B is their decision making, and their arrogance in thinking they can force throws that time and again get picked.

    Again I keep going back to what GB said last year, they never were worried about Marshal b/c they new given enough time Cutler would throw THEM the ball; well in the first 4 games he now has 6 picks and 2 lost fubmles to go w/his 8 td's; he's only gone 1 game(against Pitt) w/out turning the ball over. That just doesn't cut it in todays NFL. IF Cutler could just learn to take what the D gives him, and throw it away when the D has the play beat he'd be a franchise guy w/out question. Instead we are guaranteed to get games like today a few times a year, and it always seems to be against the teams we need to beat to get into the playoffs.
     
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    We will see and you may be right about Emery although I hope not. If Jay fails this year (and I maintain he's probably on a shorter leash for the future than you estimate--like crapping the field vs Green Bay for example), it would be a disaster long term to waste $15-20 million on him. The D is leaking oil and that cash could be better spent shoring that up rather than wasting it on turnover-happy QB who can't get his head straight and whose ceiling seems to be 10-11 wins and no SB appearances.

    As you said, 8 TDs & 8 TOs isn't getting it done and isn't worth an extension IMHO.

    PS: I would add that Emery had the balls to move on from a fan favorite in Urlacher and a HC coming off a 10-6 season so I hope he pulls the plug on the Cutler era if "Bad Jay" isn't put to rest over the next 12 games.
     
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    gotchya. Yeah, hard to argue with that, but I'd have to temper that with the thought that the person replacing Cutler would have more upside than Cutler (of course an EXTREMELY hard thing to determine up front). In other words, I don't want to just drop Cutler no matter what. Winning some games with him is still better than dropping him on principle for someone that has nowhere to go either. I know that is not what you are saying though.

    But yeah, if he is determined not to be the guy, I'd try my damndest to get someone else quick.
     
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    And think about how conservative they had Cutler play in that PIT game to not turn the ball over. There's just a consistent pattern with Cutler that many just don't want to acknowledge. He is very arrogant in the sense that he will force any ball in any situation. And if you let him loose, lots of turnovers are going to be a part of this guy's game. And he is not the kind of QB that takes what the D gives him. And I don't think its ever going to change. Which is why in the years to come you'll hear people say, "So and so is just another Cutler..." My bigger concern about this game was Cutler's absolute collapse when the Bears needed him to quiet that crowd and get us going. It just continues with any formidable opponent. Also of note, Cutler is now 15-30 against teams that are above .500, that's including his DEN days. The facts don't lie about this guy.
     
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    Jesus Christ. One bad game in another new offense and ya'll are ready to start over lol. As my 13 year old niece would say "Calm yer tits". Can we at least realize that this is another new offense for the guy? Yes, he'll piss ya off. Yes he'll a throw one or two that will make ya scratch yer head. He did just help us win a couple games in the fourth quarter. He's shown more balls than any Bears QB in the last I can't remember when. Just calm yer tits fellas.

    From where I stand Jay Cutler gives us the best chance to win NOW. This teams isn't set up to win three years from now. We're set up to win within the next three. Do you really think "starting over" now or next year or the year after increases our chances to win? Maybe six years from now. Ima steal something from the greatest ok 13th greatest movie ever made.

     
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