Cutler showing same old bad habits in new offense

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  1. riczaj01

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    Trestman is not going risk his NFL career on JC, unless JC starts playing the way he wants; I keep hearing the team has no backup plan, the backup plan is to start over next year w/a rookie qb, Trestman is the qb whisperer, he was brought in here to fix the QB and the O, not just JC.
     
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    You know this is a great post because some of what you said has been conveyed to some of these guys and they don't get it yet. You brought up another great point Ric, many coaches don't get a 2nd chance in this league. Just like many GMs don't. As was brought up some time ago, Emery was considering giving JC a $15 mil a year deal until he hired Trestman and pretty much put that decision in his hands. And I'm with you. No way is an offensive minded coach, going to destroy his career by holding on to a QB that he doesn't believe in or that he sees the franchise can upgrade.

    And all this 'the Bears don't have a backup plan blah blah blah' is idiotic on so many levels. They looked to the draft to replace Urlacher. To add quality O-lineman. But when it comes to the QB position, most Bears fans are stuck in the stoneage , thinking you can't do the same through the draft.
     
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    I have no doubt we will be drafting a QB next year no matter what (and I don't mean a 6th rounder either).
    I also have no doubt that Jay will lose his starting job for 2014 if he doesn't step up this season.
    This year is "sink or swim" for Cutler and he's capable of doing both. We shall see...
     
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    JC The Great. What a great name. I will have to use it from now on.
     
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    I agree w/this. Regardless the team cannot keep trotting out McCown as a backup. And for all his skills and ability to make plays Cutler is consistently ranked as one of the worst decision makers in the league by KC Joyner(something that was talked about on ESPN radio/Chicago yesterday) which fits right in w/what I've seen of him and it again dates right back to DEN, so while he's had legit reasons to suffer in Chicago w/the OL/WR etc, they are not the sole reason he doesn't play to his full potential.

    Reality is, if Tresty doesn't like what he sees from his qb this year, and doesn't feel he's willing to be coached up the team will move in a different direction and save tons in cap.
     
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    I agree with your assessment. I want JC to succeed. I am glad we have more pre-season to go because at this point he is not ready.
     
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    Unfortunately missed the last half of the game thanks to a minor family emergency, but did see the quarter that mattered. As everyone else has already stated, that pick was atrocious decision making. And not sharing the ball wasn't much better. Trestman covered for him by talking about limited play calling, blah, blah, blah, but I can't believe that it was six plays to Marshall.

    About the injury to the backup problem, I don't know if Arena ball contracts have an NFL escape clause, but Adrian McPherson played five years under Trestman as AC's backup. He left to play in the Arena league as AC looked to be playing until he was 50. He has the physical tools, but the rest is a question mark. He could be a possible interim No. 3.
     
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    For a change I'm gonna post just once about this and then just walk away and leave it alone. This article is just one more rehash of the same old stuff and only written because Dave Haugh and his colleagues need to write SOMETHING every day so apparently they figure it might as well be about this because it's what seems to me to be most logical to them.

    There's two key statements here that says it all and here they are.

    "He's shown me he's not going to make the same mistake twice,'' Trestman said.

    "If only Cutler made that clearer to the rest of us", wrote David Haugh.

    What do David Haugh's expectations or anyone else's have to do with it? Isn't it about time we let the guy whose getting paid to deal with it worry about it and then everyone else can stop wringing their hands and getting an ulcer over one bad decision that ended up in a pick!

    The past is the past. It's a new day and it's not a trend until it keeps happening from this point forward. Anything else is just inventing things to worry about to fill the need for some people to criticize Cutler. This is nothing new. He always throws picks and so did Favre and Elway, two other well known "gunslingers", and they both won Super Bowls didn't they? And both are HOF caliber QBs aren't they? It's gonna happen so to paraphrase Steve Rosenbloom, "he's Jay Cutler so deal with it".

    We finally have a HC who has a rep as a top notch developer of NFL QBs. Winning NFL QBs to boot. So does David Haugh or any one here or in Bears fandom in general really think they know better than Trestman does about where he's at with Cutler and where Cutler is at as far as executing his offense? Man these microscopic reviews of every pick Cutler throws are getting old.

    We scored two TDs in one quarter while he was playing yet that gets shoved to the side in favor of this? And if he'd thrown for 200 yards, complete 100% of his passes, thrown no picks but failed to produce any points then I guarantee THAT would have been in the forefront. I've never seen so many so called fans and writers who seem to be hoping he fails and that's just the ones who'll admit it. How may more wish it in secret but are afraid to admit it.

    Bears fans have whined and cried about getting a decent QB for as long as I've been following this team. He's the best QB the Bears have had in over 60 years and still some are unhappy. If we're foolish enough to just let him walk away after this year I can guarantee you he'll be offered a deal from another team within a day and starting for them in 2014. If for whatever reason he's not the fit Trestman is looking for well then for God's sake at least trade him for picks like those it cost us to get him. In my book just letting him go and getting nothing in return would be a real scorch mark on Emery's reign as the GM.
     
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    Cutler is the best Bears QB most of us have lived through. But he can improve. Maybe not to Rodgers-esque levels, but he can be much better. And that does include reducing the avoidable mistakes that come along with being a "gunslinger" like holding the ball too long, taking too many sacks, not throwing it away, and tossing ill-advised passes into double/triple coverage that often get picked.

    I want to see him step up under Tresty/new weapons and elevate his game. I want to see him retained for 2014 while we develop a 2nd/3rd round draft pick for the future and/or trade bait. That's what this year is about deciding for the new regime. I'm confident he can and will do it. I don't expect Jay to ever be the ball security kind of precision QB that Brady is for instance who throws picks very rarely. But he does need to do a better job of deciding when "discretion is the better part of valor" out there.

    I'm not fretting about that horrifically bad decision that was intercepted in the recent PS game. As long as there's a learning curve ongoing and lessons learned. That's Trestmans job to instill and Jay's to accept.
     

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