Cutler take away

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  1. BSBEARS

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    For those who were not happy with signing Cutler here is a good article for you. Seems most have come to accept the Cutler signings but some grumblings over the money. Maybe this article will make you feel better.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bears-hey-jay-cutler-39-best-quarterback-171100478--nfl.html

    I am glad we have him onboard, especially when I read the recent Bear QB list
     
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    I like having him also, but stats aside, he needs to start winning the big games and not just the teams we should beat.
     
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    First, I am fine with Cutler's signing....

    And I get the logic behind Cutler is the best QB we have ever had...however, that logic is also a potential trap...i.e. as in being happy/content/satisfied with flawed mediocrity just because you used to unabashed crap...
     
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    I've levied plenty of criticism at Cutler as well (he drives me crazy sometimes with his avoidable turnovers and clunker games). But as usual the headlines of the contract--"7 years! $127 million!!--don't tell the full story. We now know that it is basically a market value 3 year deal with 4 option seasons to follow on a pay-as-you-go basis. The Bears as of now can walk away after 3 years with no strings attached. It also has a provision to allow the team to convert salary into signing bonus at will (if they so choose) and thereby free up cap space (the "penalty" for which is creating potential dead cap in years 4 & 5 if the team parts company with him).

    All in all, I think it was a very good and fair deal. With our huge needs on defense, we aren't going to be drafting a QB in round 1/2 this year or probably not next year either. Everyone loves to point to the once-in-a-generation anachronism of New England finding a future HOF QB in the 6th but that is an extreme rarity. Basically, what I'm saying is that Cutler is the starter for the foreseeable future barring a miracle or major injury and locking him down was the right thing to do and well done at that.

    We all know he's not in the "elite" category but shoddy QB play was NOT even close to the reason why we have missed the playoffs 3 straight years. He's the best option right now.
     
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    I don't invest much in stories that play the BS game lol like his list of other QB's...would you rather have?....

    And he puts Bradford on there! I would take Bradford over Cutler. Bradford isn't bad he's just on a crap team like the rest of the Qb's mentioned from his list. And he only named 1/3 of the league leaving the rest of the QB's as what?

    If he was being honest he would throw some tough names in there to debate. Would you rather have Newton, Eli, Dalton, Matty Ice, Kap, Wilson, Rivers, and so on....you get the point. For the handful of Qb's stuck on shit teams there are just as many on the other side of the fence.

    We all know Cutler is talented...i just want to see him invest more of himself into his game, and gain some confidence which is needed to win in those clutch moments.
     
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    Clutch moments....how are Newton, Rivers, Matty Ice, and Dalton in the clutch compared to Culter? There's this idea out there that Jay doesn't perform well in big moments and it's simply false.
     
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    Obviously they all lose right? That is your angle, am i not correct? they all lose and have never won the biggie. I get it.....

    I'm not trying to bash Cutler but his past talks for me....He is a good Qb and i'm not trying to take that away from reality.

    He has the physical tools to throw a ball...why doesn't he have the accuracy? or why doesn't he read defenses like a Payton or Brady?

    Comes down to either he isn't that good or he just doesn't put in the effort...And don't mistake me, i love the Bears and am more than happy to have and have had Cutler as Qb...I just realize he is not going to lead us to a superbowl. He might go along for the ride like a Dilfer, but lead them there he will never do.
     
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    No, your perception of his past speaks for you! Your perception is not the ACTUAL REALITY of the situation. Cutler has one of the best records when it comes to 4th quarter game winning drives...which correct if I'm wrong, would be clutch. Prior to this year he had 17 game winning drives and threw a TD on 11 of them, which is good enough to rank him second in QBTD% in those scenarios. This year I believe he had 3 game winnings drives/4th quarter comebacks.

    Why don't all QB's read defenses like Peyton and Brady? Thats an impossible comparison because there is only 1 Peyton, and I don't think you'll see another qb like him for a very long time! Peyton is the exception, not even close to the rule. Further, look at who Peyton has gotten to work with vs. the offensive minds Cutler has worked with...who would you rather have? Same for Brady...he's worked with much better offensive minds in his career. I'm not saying Cutler is or will be anything close to those two...but look at the situations.
     
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    Has there ever been a worse set of offensive coaches than these?

    Ron Turner
    (of "Run Little Garrett Wolf Between the Tackles" fame)

    Mad Mike Martz
    (fired by the pathetic Detroit Lions but cherished by Lovie)

    Mike "Love Boat" Tice
    (J'Marcus Webb's #1 Web Nation Fan)


    Lovie (We don't need no stinkin' offense) Smith

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    And with the draft prowess of the brilliant Jerry Angelo

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