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    And let's not forget Indy's preseason record (1-3) in 2006 when they won SB XLI.

    Or Detroit's PS record (4-0) right before their winless season. Good job, Rod! :thumb:
     
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    Rod M should have been out of the league after that year, b/c as we know in football and in business past results are a good indication of future performance.
     
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    Ok...it's still the pre-season and the game didn't count. Oh yeah, and there was little to no game planning.

    Glad I could help out.
     
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    I mean how could he possibly call a good defense when his defense that year routinely gave up 30 plus points a game. What about that season would give anyone an indication he can call a good defense?! I saw nothing that would tell me I should have had trust in him as a coach, or that he could teach his scheme to his players!

    ****sounds like a familiar line eh?
     
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    I won't say the sky is falling, but I saw post after post on the Bears FB page about how the 85 Bears went 0-4 in the preseason. Well, this isn't the 85 Bears!!!
    Yes, it is the preseason, but can you honestly expect the defense to go from horrible to mediocre in two weeks?

    Also, I realize it was the defending SB champs, but the Jags moved up and down on the Bears starters vs starters.

    I love the Bears and always will, but I'm also a realist. The Bears have a lot of work to do.

    Beardown!
     
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    And therein lies the biggest part of the problem. Football is played on the field not on a white board. Some coaches can only deal with the cerebral part while others know how to get their teams out on the field and prepared to win games. I'm beginning to wonder which we have and so far I'm leaning towards the former.

    I wouldn't have given you two cents for all that Mike Ditka knew about Xs and Os when he took over the Bears. His entire coaching background to that point was as a TE and STeams coach. But he did know how to get players juiced up to win games and players or coaches who didn't measure up didn't stick around long.

    Trestman talks about the entire football playing part of the organization taking accountability and if he's a man of his word that means his coaches and himself as well. I've been told I'm a great boss to work for because I let people know at the get go what I expect from them and I always hold myself to those same standards.

    It's Tucker's and DeCamillis' job to get their players prepared to play and to replace or release those players who don't or won't. It's Trestman's job to hold his coaches responsible for that and to replace them if they don't. If he allows both of the units to under perform this badly all season long then he will have lost all credibility with me.
     
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    Good point brother. Personality wise Trestman is everything you want in a HC. Smart and relatively unflappable. But what you want in a DC is a guy like Buddy Ryan whose more of a Marine Corps drill instructor. Buddy was a crusty insulting SOB but he was a great coach and a great teacher and Buddy's players loved him, respected him, and played their asses off for him.

    I don't see that at all with Tucker's players. I see some guys playing at about 80% of their actual ability to play and that tells me there's a problem somewhere along the line. Either these guys don't understand their assignments or they do and they can see that it's not working. Either way they end up confused and THAT IS EXACTLY the way they're playing.

    They aren't slow of foot they're slow to read and react because their understanding of the scheme is unclear. That is also EXACTLY the same problem he had last year and yet we're told "well it's because he was forced to run Lovie's defense". I only half bought into that last year and not at all this year. I've lost all patience with this guy and as a fan I won't accept another year like last one out of THIS defense. He has the players now so it's time to make it happen.
     
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    Forget past history and look at THIS team and specifically THIS teams defense which is repeating the exact same patterns they did a year ago when they couldn't stop teams on 3rd and 4th down.

    There's a pattern here Mike and THAT's what you and everyone else should be looking at. What's worse is this pattern is repeating itself despite the addition of some top shelf defensive talent and two highly respected defensive coaches to work on the units who showed the most weakness last year.

    The only thing that hasn't been changed is the DC and about 80% of us felt THAT was what needed to be done way back in January. Apparently Emery and Trestman disagreed and thought they could solve their problems a different way.

    Sometimes a thing is just broken beyond repair and throwing all the money in the world at it won't make it work right again. THAT's what I'm beginning to sense is happening here. Mel Tucker wasn't a proven DC when he was hired and nothing that's happened since would convince any sane person otherwise.
     
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    If the D doesn't step up, all the work on the O is a waste. The window of opportunity with this roster is small and a cluster f lke last year will not work. I felt Tucker should have been fired after the GB fiasco, and I still feel this way today. He's not the guy to get us there.
     
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    You can't expect Tucker to make something out of less than 6 starting pro-bowlers.

    It's only a preseason game.

    It's not Mel's responsibility to develop players like Bostic.

    There was no game planning.

    The '85 Bears were 1-3!

    Did I mention that's it's only preseason still?

    Hey, at least the Cowboys D looks even worse!

    You do know Mel Tucker once coached a top-10 D in Jacksonville, don't you?

    He also led a bitchin' pee-wee team in 1991.

    The Bears older players are too old and their younger players are too young.

    The '06 Lions were 4-0!

    Shea is the whole problem. I hate him. And Conte. Oh wait, Conte didn't start. And he was pretty good when he was in. Shit.

    Yeah, but it was the Super Bowl champs we were playing, what do ya expect?

    It wasn't really a dress rehearsal, that's just a media myth.

    How do you know what Tucker's calls and scheme really are? It's an unknowable mystery inside of a riddle wrapped into an enigma, don't you get it???

    There were a lot of injuries last year.

    The score doesn't count. Stats don't matter. It's just numbers.

    Who could have foreseen the need to keep contain on that Russell Wilson guy?

    Did I mention it's just preseason still?
     
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