Day Two Discussion

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  1. Grizzblue

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    Well, like it or not the Fuller pick is in the books. What should/can our focus shift to now? Any chance at a quality safety is pretty much gone, so what do you think/want/expect we do?

    With safety pretty much out the window for the here and now, I'm looking for a multitude of possibilities. DT, MLB, RB, QB, and I'm sure more all possible in day two. I just don't see a justifiable safety in day two, unless we are looking for another CB who may play S.
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    I don't think safety is quite as bad a need as most here do....

    Yes, our safeties both sucked last year.

    But the 2 years prior to that they were passable.

    Previously it was a case of bad safetys + excellent supporting cast = good safety play. (2012)

    Last year it was bad safetis + bad supporting cast = horrific safety play. (2013)

    This year it should end up more like bad safeties + good supporting cast (could be excellent, the talents there) = average safety play. (2014)

    If Mundy is an improvement over Wright then we're already better.

    I'm not saying our safeties are good, or even average. I'm just saying that as long as our defense isn't decimated by injuries like last year and the following happens:
    1) Defensive line generates a pass rush (didn't happen last year)
    2) Linebackers stop the run (didn't happen last year)

    Then they won't be put in positions they can't handle so often.....remember - no one was calling safety a need at the last draft.

    Take one of the following quality D linemen left in round 2:
    - Rashede Hageman
    - Timmy Jernigan
    - Louis Nix
    - Kony Ealy
    - Kareem Martin

    And that supporting cast is even better....there are 5 quality D linemen there, at least a few have to be there when the Bears pick.
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    I looked at safety as probably our biggest need (although perhaps not the position that would make the most difference). Emery always has a plan. I'm not sure if in his plan he counted on all the safeties being taken prior to our second pick, but that is the situation. So we can play the convert-a-player game that we have already played several times and try to convert either a current pick or a current player to S, take a S in FA, or stay pat with the safeties we have. Emery has acknowledged bad S play, so I think if we end up with the 3rd choice it is because a plan did not work out. There is no question that now we know that CB was of more importance to Emery than S since the safeties were there and he went CB. I'm not going to second guess that because I also agree that IN GENERAL a CB is much more valuable. I am not sure that is the case for us at this point in time, but that does not really matter right now.

    If he is going to ply the convert-a-player route with a draft pick, I would be surprised if he takes a guy as high as the 2nd to play a converted role, but anything is possible.

    At this point, I would say DT, but to be sure, we are going to need a mock to confirm it.
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    S is gone as a 2nd round consideration IMO. DT next up.
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    I'm not tied to any position, just make sure the guy is a baller and helps us win games.
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    I know this will be unpopular...but RB is a darkhorse if Hill is still there. Other than that, Jernigan or Hageman we can cross our fingers for but I doubt it. Fuller is growing on me, I still wonder if he is going to play safety, I think the rest of this draft will answer some questions. And before anyone quotes emery on Fuller not playing S....keep in mind I doubt he will tip his hand on the rest of the draft after one pick.
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    It's not a bad spot to gamble on Tuitt if he checked out medically.
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    I'd say look to DT in 2 and MLB but for round 3 I can see a RB. The DT from USC (name escapes me) could fall to us.
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    I think it's either Louis Nix or
    Dominique Easley both had private workouts with the Bears.
    Didn't hear or see any other of the top DT's have visits with the Bears
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    These are all the guys that had a visit with the Bears
    [​IMG]Chicago Bears:
    Walt Aikens, DB, Liberty (PRI)
    Anthony Barr, LB, UCLA (PRO)
    Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (SR)
    Xavius Boyd, LB, Western Kentucky (INT)
    Deone Bucannon, DB, Washington State (PRI)
    Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, DB, Alabama (PRI)
    Aaron Donald, DL, Pittsburgh (COM)
    Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, OT, McGill (INT)
    Dominique Easley, DL, Florida (PRI)
    Kyle Fuller%, CB, Virginia Tech (PRI) (PRO)
    Zach Fulton, OL, Tennessee (PRI)
    Marqueston Huff, DB, Wyoming (PRO)
    Kofi Hughes, WR, Indiana (PRO)
    Gabe Ikard, OL, Oklahoma (COM)
    Al Louis-Jean, DB, Boston College (PRO)
    Jordan Lynch%, QB, Northern Illinois (LOC) (COM)
    Louis Nix, DL, Notre Dame (PRI)
    Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama (PRO)
    Calvin Pryor, DB, Louisville (PRI)
    Tommy Rees, QB, Notre Dame (PRI/PRO)
    Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State (PRO)
    Will Sutton, DL, Arizona State (PRI)
    De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (PRI)
    Chris Watt, OL, Notre Dame (PRO)
    James White, RB, Wisconsin (PRI)
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    Patriots took Easley in the 1st round man!
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    This may come as a shocker to some, but I actually agree to an extent. Would I take Tuitt over Jernigan? Hell no, would I take Tuitt if he slipped..yeah I would. He can play the 7 or the 3 and that would largely depend on what Houston is best suited for. I have kinda warmed up to the idea of versatility on defense, and if Houston and Tuitt lined up on the same side and could preform their respective roles well then it could be a scary situation.
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    Thats how I see it IMO. Now if Nix fell and Jernigan and Tuitt were both off the board I wouldn't hate the pick. That would assume that Nix can stay 315 MAX and can illustrate good burst to stout up our run D.
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    I was on board with a pick at 14 for a penetrating DT. Can any of the DT's left that we can get really be a penetrating, dominant DT? I'm not sure they are. If not, do we still take one? I think the DL is sound, but it needs a guy that can penetrate. If we can't get that, then I think we are just getting another guy like we already have.
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    For a penetrating, disruptive 3? My favorite is still Quarrles. I wouldn't be opposed to him at 51 if Jernigan, Tuitt were off the board and we are dead set on a DT. I know thats not what the "expert mocks" expect, and some will call it a reach. But regardless of who lined up next to him the man landed 9.5 sacks in the SEC. Nothing to turn your nose up at.
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    Not sure he is that big a difference maker (but 9.5 sacks is in fact nothing to turn your nose up at). At this point, I'd be ok with a stud MLB, but of course the guy that we all knew would be a difference maker was long gone even before our first pick (Mack).

    There are still good DT's left, but I expect a rush on them in the first half of the 2nd.
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    I agree BIH. If it lines up perfectly for us a guy like Jernigan or Hageman will slip. I would almost gaurentee that if Hageman is there at 51 Emery would jump all over it. But it's the draft and nobody know what will happen.
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    Priority 1
    - DT - Obviously priority number 1 is to get a young DT in, with a particular focus on a 3 tech who can disrupt the back field but even a heavier stouter run blocker wouldn't be a bad pick. Ratliff and Collins offer flexibility to play either role

    Consider
    - S - the so called depth is thin but you never know how the Bears rate some of the prospects. There might be a guy with a second round grade who's yet to be drafted
    - LB - replacement for Briggs or MLB
    - Corner - 2 CB in a row would be strange but if you say this is Tillman's last year and you put Fuller in the Nickel you could then have another CB as the replacement for Tillman. It really depends how much you like Frey as a long term prospect
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    Emery passed on Dix.

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