Do you think the Packers being a good team is good for us?

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Do you think the Packers being a good team is good for us?

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  1. short faced bear

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    When ISN'T having the best division a bad thing? Iron sharpens iron. Add in a few different and tough non-conference opponents and that's a good thing imo.
     
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    I don't know why anyone would prefer beating a lousy team to an ultra competitive game between two evenly matched team as apparently Sunday's game against Cincy was. That was an incredibly fun game to watch surrounded by about 200 more Bears fans like I was.

    The measure of success this year and every year will be how well the Bears do against their equals and I would much rather the Pack be an equal than a patsy and they aren't and never will be as long as Aaron Rodgers is playing and McCarthy is coaching. I think the Bears and the Packers are very evenly matched this year and actually have been for quite some time.

    The major difference in previous years came down to some key injuries that kept players out and from Lovie Smith being out coached in nearly every game. When he was hired his avowed mission was to beat the Packers and he started out doing just that. But as time went by it seems to me McCarthy and Rodgers had pretty well figured out every way they could to attack Lovie's base defense successfully and as usual he was too stubborn to adapt.

    Don't even get me started on our offensive stupidity and inept game plans against them. We've made Dom Capers look like a defensive genius and he's not. The Packers have had a suspect defense for years and we never could figure out how to exploit that as well as they did ours.
     
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    Oh, I prefer our division and non-conference games to be higher quality, but I like a couple of easy teams to play each year.
     
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    One additional comment. Last year we beat up on weak teams and racked up 10 wins, but it never felt "good" to me. Sure it's always great to win, but in my heart, I knew we were not a good team. We weren't . We tried to play with "the big boys" and got beat. No playoffs for us.

    This year we've already proven that we can beat a good team. Even if we fall short of 10 wins this year, I'll still feel better about the team, because we are not "pretenders" anymore. We're a really decent football team now. It may take yet another season before we hit our true stride as a team, but I'm OK with that. Better than having a mediocre team that is a joke against the solid teams of the league.
     
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    I love those games, but I have heart attacks during them, lol


    Agree completely

    It's just one game, but they can't "wait" for Rodgers to make mistakes like they did with Dalton. They're gonna have to be aggressive in games like that.

    I agree. Dom Capers is probably the most overrated DC in the league, outside of Rob Ryan.
     
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    Is it good for "us" as fans, no..it's cost the Bears countless playoffs and at least 1 chance at a SB a few years ago.

    Is it good for the team? Not so sure the team should care, they should be worry about building the team they want to build, not worry about how good or if GB is good at all.

    Do you think GB fans care if Chicago is good or not? Has ND's fall over the last 10 years hurt USC? Think NYG cares that Dallas is owned by a egotistical asshat that only hurts the Cowboys team? Does Balt care that the Browns suck?

    I only care whether the Bears FO are building a good team via the draft and FA and making good contract decisions, I only care if the coaches are developing the talent they are given and coming up w/good game plans that allow them to change their plan if the other team is stopping said plan.

    I DO NOT care if GB, Minny, or Det are any good. I would perfer them to be good, but I don't think it effects the overall outcome of how good the Bears are so it's just not that relevent. If it was relevent, if it did matter, the Bears would have been far better over the last 30 years then they were.
     
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    Ric, you're picking up a different argument here. I was meaning "is it better" because it makes it sweeter to beat them when they're good. The implied message here is that "When we win", is it better?
    As for the rivalries:
    Ask Packer fans, and I bet their answers will be similar to the ones here
    Apples to Oranges with the ND USC comparison. LA's in a world by itself. Alabama vs. Auburn would be a better one.
    Redskins are the Cowboys biggest rivals, not the Giants
    Baltimore is NOT the Browns biggest rival, the Steelers are.

    The bold sentence makes no sense, honestly. You're (incorrectly) inferring from this thread that we somehow think that the Bears quality of players is linked to the quality of the Packers players. What you should have gotten out of this was that wins against a good Packers team matter more.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    ya but the Redskins suck as bad as the Cowboys do....and really recently NY has been the class of the division.
    I dont know about that Ravens/Browns thing. I think the Browns fans hate the Ravens every bit as much as the Stealers.

    I just want the team the Bears to win, I don't care if the team they beat, GB or otherwise are good. Is it sweeter when it might actually be the nail in the coffin of a good GB team? Sure but at the end of the day I want the Bears at the top of the conference and fighting for a chance at a SB, and rarely have GB and Chi ever met in the playoffs at a chance to goto the SB(I think a few years ago was the 1st time they had ever met in the championship game).
     
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    Well just saying, those rivalries, at the least, have dipped in recent years, but they're still there. I respect your opinion, and you are right about them only meeting a few times in the playoffs, but Bears Packers NFCC rematch, what Bears fan wouldn't want that to be our victory that gets us to the SB?
     
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