ESPN: "Did Broncos win Cutler trade?"

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  1. JustAnotherBearsFan99

    JustAnotherBearsFan99 Coordinator SuperFan DBS Writer

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    Here's the ESPN Four Downs questions:

    1. Fact or Fiction: Five years later, the Broncos are the winner of the Jay Cutler trade.

    2. Fact or Fiction: The Bears should pursue Martellus Bennett's brother Michael in free agency.

    3. Fact or Fiction: The Bears should use all of their draft picks on defensive players.

    4. Fact or Fiction: Marquess Wilson will emerge as the Bears' No. 3 receiver in 2014.


  2. mdbearz

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    - So they have Thomas and Decker and we have Cutler. Sorry but I tend to think that Manning has more to do with the other two playoff appearances, and he was not part of the deal. Two receivers do not beat out a QB.

    - Bennett will cost too much and he seems like more of a rush specialist than a every down DE.

    - We need to draft a lot of defense but even in the first round if a top offensive player drops to us, AND we can not find a trade partner then no way you pass.

    - Even if Earl Bennett is still around, I have a feeling that Wilson might push him for the job.
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    short faced bear Assistant Head Coach DBS Writer

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    If the $ is right keep Bennett. I feel he makes a better slot receiver than Wilson would. First get a center and a complimentary TE and I think this offense will run like a atomic clock.
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    1. Fact or Fiction: Five years later, the Broncos are the winner of the Jay Cutler trade.
    No. Tim Tebow and Orton were the plans post Cutler and it doesn't matter how good the 2 WR you drafted were if your level of QB is down in the gutter you aren't getting anywhere. They were extremely lucky Manning came along.

    2. Fact or Fiction: The Bears should pursue Martellus Bennett's brother Michael in free agency.
    Of course we should pursue him. But to what extent? If he plays well in the SB I can't see him being good value as his rep will be through the roof. I'd rather try and find the version of him 12 months ago.

    3. Fact or Fiction: The Bears should use all of their draft picks on defensive players.
    No. Best available whilst keeping needs in mind is always the way to draft. If there's a RB, QB, TE, C or for that matter any OL who's a standout available particular in rounds 3 and on we should take him. 5-2 split d to o sounds about right

    4. Fact or Fiction: Marquess Wilson will emerge as the Bears' No. 3 receiver in 2014.

    All depends what we do with Earl. If we keep Earl I think he's actually a bit underrated now and should stay as number 3, but if not then Wilson hopefully steps up. Either way as part of Cutler's maturation in Trestman's offense it's time to see more passes to 3rd and 4th WR and 2nd TE. Manning has what 4 guys with 10 or more touch downs plus a 4th receiver (Caldwell) and 2nd TE who have made some catches. 5 or 6 legitimate options so that defenses have to respect everyone is the next step for the offense as is getting a second running back to take the heat of Forte so he can save his body a bit and make the big plays when needed.
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    I agree with everything you stated here, but I must point out that Manning was NOT a part of the trade. Cutler's value to the Broncos has resulted in 2 Receivers, and that is comparing apples to apples.

    So if they were only able to turn 2 first rounders and a third round pick into 2 WR's and we were able to get a "franchise" QB (he is being paid like one atleast).

    Sorry but we were the CLEAR winner here.
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    Until the Bears actually do something post season w/Cutler, on a consistently, neither were winners, 2 WR's do not equal a qb, a qb that does not make regular deep runs into the playoffs is not a franchise qb. The Bears thought they got a franchise qb in Cutler, and to this point he's been anything but. The idea for Den was to move on from Cutler b/c he was not the long term answer, believing that Tebow was(Orton was a stop gap) that didn't happen either.
    Now the case could be made that Tebow was such an epic fail that when Manning became an FA Den was a legit option b/c the team was all but built minus the qb, if Cutler had been there Den is not as likely an option b/c while he might not have had the playoff success Manning is having, the team is not going to jettison him for a much older QB. Either way Chicago is not a likely option b/c at the time the OL was still an issue, as was the HC. So in that aspect, b/c they are playing in the SB you could make a case, although highly circumstantial that Den is now closer to a SB b/c of the trade.

    Michael is going to cost some money b/c he is now a SB DE, not sure if he hits open market(who's to say Sea doesn't re sign him), the Bears can afford him.

    No team should EVER go all O or D in the draft.

    Wilson still has a lot of proving to do, and as of right now he still has EB in front of him.
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    I can't believe some of the comparisons.

    Like some have said, what is the time frame for measuring the winner? If Denver loses this year but if we go to the SB in three years with Cutler and win.... Do we win the trade???

    This can go on for ever!

    We Cutler is still here, and still producing. Where the hell is Orton at, Dallas I think.

    We made out because shit, McDaniels isn't even there. How many people on THAT Denver coaching staff are still there?

    The time to measure the trade "winner" ended with McDaniel being fired.
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    I believe that the SB answered the first two questions. The trade helped them but it did not end with a SB win. Bennett didn't really stand out to me but may still cost too many $ to be affordable. #3 depends on FA and just how many picks the Bears end up with by trading up or down but it should be a priority for sure. #4 Too early to tell so I will wait to see how he works out. JMHO though.
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