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    Whatever platitudes ESPN or Bleecher Report spew the fact remains: The O line was resurrected and with the young influx of talent have nowhere to go but up.

    AND the offense is only in it's first year.
     
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    not as true as it was, but it's still true. IF Long moves to T, then the pick was deserved, if not and he stays G, then the team really screwed up b/c they had a Rhodes there for a backfield that was in need of him, and Alec there as a MLB on a team that needed him. He's panned out well, no doubt, but intior G's capable of playing at high levels are still found later, there is never a need to reach.
     
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    I agree 100%. Regarding Jordan Mills, it's a "reality check" to remember he's a 5th round rookie who was thrown into the fire due to our OL woes. There really was no viable "Plan B" this year. Add to that fact, he was lining up next to a rookie with very little college experience (a college baseball player with only 12 starts as a football player) - I think it was nothing short of amazing how he performed, under those circumstances. Mills will have an entire off-season to assimilate what he learned this year as a starter, and he will get physically better too. The playing time our two rookies received this year will prove very valuable in their 2nd season. There is no substitute for actual game reps, and these to guys got an entire rookie season of starting reps. It's priceless in their development moving forward now.
     
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    I have no problem w/how Mills or Long, or anyone on the OL played regarding pass pro, now the team had to use a lot of max protect much of the year to hide them; but when you have 2 rookies and a new system I think that's to be expected. I don't care of about hurries or disruptions either, the fundamental flaw of PFF grading system, so if they think Mills or anyone else on the OL had a problem in pass pro last year, and it's b/c of the hurries/disruptions then you can toss it out the window.

    What I will say is the OL isn't strong enough yet in the run pro and opening holes; better then in prev years, but it still needs a lot of help. watching Sea/SF yesterday showed what a dominant run OL looks like, and the Bears didn't resemble that much this year.
     
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    Ric I agree completely with your entire post, but REALLY liked the above part of it. I was soooooo envious of the blocking. Denver too. These teams were facing solid defenses, yet they moved people around like moving furniture. It was beautiful to watch. I have hopes that Kromer can get us to this level. I just love watching a great OL work.

    What also made me envious were the defenses. The Seattle defense in particular was like watching one of the great Bears defenses of the past. As I watched the final four teams play yesterday, it made an indelible imprint on my mind as to how high the bar is set for the Bears if they ever want to play with the "Big Boys" for final four championships again - and actually win a Super Bowl in modern times. I thought to myself that THIS is the reason why we haven't won a Super Bowl in over a quarter-century - you have to have the full-package. We have a ways to go yet.

    p.s. I know somebody will jump in here and point out the 2006 Super Bowl loss, and say we had a great team that year. To be honest, I thought we were "pretenders" that year and we got exposed in the SB.
     
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    I agree with everything you've said here. I don't believe you can get there if you only have a really good O. You absolutely have to have a solid well-balanced team. The O has to be good, the D has to be good. ST has to be good. Yes this is an offense friendly league now, but you have to have a defense. We have a ways to go on all three sides of the ball, but our offense is close.

    I won't jump on you about 2006. We WERE pretenders. Our O fell apart and Dungy's crew picked our D apart like a thanksgiving turkey dinner. Where was that Arizona second-half performance then???
     
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    Tbh all that talk is prety useless. I mean it's too late re-make the draft. Besides I'd rather had Bears trading up to get Alonso over Ogletree. If we could remake the draft I'd say Alonso first round, Warford, 2th.

    But let's look at the bright side.. How many would have liked to see Arthur Brown being drafted by us? Afaik he hasn't had a better year than Bostic.

    But yea the draft is done no way you can remake it, and it wasn't like the Bears was the only one missing out on Warford/Olgetree
     
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    Well I for one kept telling people you don't want a MLB in the 2nd, so I didn't want Brown, he didn't earn a starting spot, then again they weren't down a starting MLB so it's a pretty unfair comparisson. TBH, considering Brown wasn't starting he still got a forced fumble and a 1/2 a sack, Bostic got a fr, int and a sack but was starting for 1/2 a season; he also had 40 more tackles then Brown.

    No way the Bears could have traded up w/what 5 picks? But Rhodes/Ogletree were legit options. It's all in the past, but you have to look at them, kinda like Shea will always be looked at vs DeCastro, CJones and MWhitley.
     
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    True but that goes for the other teams aswell who missed on them. Some Jets fan(Hi Henry) might also QQ about how they picked Stephen Hill over Jeffery, or Rams with Brian Quick.
    At the end of the day I believe that luck has so much to do with the draft. Do you have the right player who can transform eassily into NFL, do you have the right teammates to "coach" you, do you have the right coach? Look at Tom Brady, if it wasn't for his (for lack of better word) mental will and Bill Belichick would be have been a HOF QB?

    There will also be those picks you just wish were different, but it aint gonna do you a favor for me at least it just makes me sad.

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    This years draft will probably be no different, I kind of expect the Bears to be the first team to take a DT, there's 3 choices right now, Louis Nix, Hageman and Jernigan. So what if we picks Nix, and he turns out to be another prone injurie, but Hageman turns into this monster DT furture many times probowler and Jernigan turns into an above average? Or vice versa. :/
     
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    That's a great quote I've never heard before today "picked our D apart like a thanksgiving turkey dinner"......I laughed out loud when I read that quote. Classic and true.
     
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