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Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by JustAnotherBearsFan99, Feb 10, 2014.
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"...and 42 quarterback pressures..." don't care, don't care, don't care about "qb pressures".
This guy gave up 4 sacks which is almost 50% cut from Webb, that is money well spent; and that's not counting the amount of yards that Forte got b/c of Bushrod.
After enduring J-Webb for far to long, it seems like a no-brainer to resign Bushrod. He's far from perfect, but he's the best we've had for a while. We have other salaries of older players we can dump. Just my 2 cents.
I still can't believe people were comparing Bushrod to Webb with those PFF stats. Now there just needs to be a plan of succession at LT. At least with Phil and co. I'm confident they will at least draft more o-line.
I completely agree. The QB Pressure stats from PFF are useless. They don't take scheme into consideration. Our tackles are taught to push the rusher past the pocket so these should not be counted as pressures. I hate seeing these numbers referenced everywhere.
Ctree, and that's the other thng about the Bushrod/Webb comparisson, Tice DIDN'T want his T's pushing the DE's past the pocket, they WERE expected to keep the DE in front of them, so those Webb pressures should count more then the Bushrod ones, if you are going to count them at all.
The pessure thing should only matter if the qb is sacked by another D player who got their b/c of the pressure puton by the first D player, or if the qb is forced to run and cannot complete a throw, or is forced throw the ball away. If the qb merely moves and gets a clean pocket to throw it shouldn't count as a pressure.
Even PFF admits the flaw, they don't and therefore cannot take into account scheme.
IMO they should do a point system:
Sacks per pass attempt 5
Hits per pass attempt 2
Pressures*as discribed above* per pass attempt .5
Another problem w/PFF is they don't take into consideration how many drop backs the qb takes, a LT that allows 8 sacks, 10 hits and 50 pressures in 700 attempts is doing his job better then the guy that allows 4 sack, 5 hits and 25 pressures in 550 attempts.
I don't care what PFF stats said.
Bushrod >>> Webb
The "eye test"
Left Tackle ?
Who got done what in the last three years ?
By the last three years let us refresh our thoughts.
Who was there the last three years that amounted to anything ?
Now ... try to be specific.