Freeman and Sanchez. Who? Where?

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    Because the retread is easier to deal with because he already knows how to play in the NFL and the unknown project doesn't know how to play. How much time and effort is being spent on "developing" Josh McCown? Zero. Because right now it is imperitive to find out what Cutler can do. This is a huge multi million dollar decision the front office has to make. Why complicate that by also giving the coaching staff a kid who doesn't know how to play the task of teaching that kid how to play? If Jay goes down, McCown will go out there and play just as well or better as some no name kid with zero experience.

    It's like hiring someone to build a house, and then also making them rebuild your car while they are at it. Trestman his plate just trying to get wins on the table and the game plan implemented. They should not have to also worry about if the backup QB knows enough of the gameplan to be trusted out there.
     
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    Nice analogy, but the statistics are against using a retread in today's NFL. Hell, Josh Campbell got passed over for the 3rd stringer, and I'm sure McCown would've had the same. The draft is where we need to get a backup. College is producing more polished players at QB than ever, and this upcoming one's supposed to be somewhat deep at the position.
     
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    This draft may be deep at QB, but we could really use some help on the defensive side of the ball.
     
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    Yep, people that claim retreads are the way to go aren't watching todays nfl.
     
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    I don't think either one of those guys jumps to conclusions. I am sure it was disappointing, but not sure either is ready to trash Jay yet. If this keeps up, then that is a different story. The real question is what do they do if he beats most teams, but continues to fold like a cheap tent under real pressure. We get into the playoffs and then lose? Will they consider him good enough to keep trying to fix, or do they cut bait?
     
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    I wonder what they are thinking after todays stinker? Still think McCown is a good backup and there shouldn't be a gameplan for life after Cutler; that still look like a good idea?
     
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    How was today's loss in any way related to McCown? Was he not backing up Cutler enough to enable him to not throw bad passes under pressure? If only Blanchard were here as the 2nd string, we could've put him in and we'd have won!

    I think the Bears need to see what life with Cutler is like before they just start going off in all directions for anyone who is not Cutler. Jesus, they played an away game in a dome against a really good pass rush and our D is not generating anything resembling a pass rush to help. The O as a whole had a bad day, and yeah Jay lost his composure and threw some bad passes. We lost one game, and here you are asking "Well, I guess it's time to trot out anyone else that is not named Jay, or old like McCown. New is always better!"

    Look, I'm sorry you put all your hope into a kid that isn't being pursued by anyone after his injury settlement. But Jay is the present right now. I don't care what the future is going to hold until I am sure it ain't Jay.
     
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    B/c McCown is not a long or short term answer in the least, that's how.

    Cutler isn't going to have 3+ more games like this, it's going to depend on who those next 2-3 games come against. I full well see Cutler getting extended, but they need a legit backup from here on out.

    What you think this is about Blanchard? It was never about Blanchard, it was about how gawd awful McCown is, I'm sorry you think McCown is anything more then sad desperation for a team that couldn't trade back to get more picks to get a real qb to back up the starter.
     
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    You are the one that brought up the backup QB situation.

    I brought up Blanchard because he was your guy. He was the one you thought should have been the #2 QB. I mentioned him because this game and this loss had nothing to do with who the backup QB was, yet here you are making a case against McCown again in your quote above. Would Blanchard have been able to stem this loss as the #2 QB? No, he wouldn't have.

    This Cutler situation can play out one of two ways. If Trestman decides to roll with Cutler for a long term deal, then I do not give a rat's ass who our backup QB is. If they decide that Jay is not the future, then I want them to get the best QB they can that fits Trestman's system in the 2014 draft with our first round pick and possibly trading up. There is no option, to me, of, "Well, maybe if we kept some nobody QB from Nowheresville, he could've be the 2014 starter by being the backup in 2013." And I certainly don't care if we take a 4th round QB next year to develop behind Cutler just because it's another self proclaimed "Year of the QB" by the college scouts. I don't care if they keep McCown or get another vet either.

    McCown is exactly what I think he is, a minimum salary veteran QB with starting experience and a rapport with Cutler that we are not spending one ounce of effort on because the focus of the coaching staff is entirely on Cutler. Shit, McCown is helping teach Cutler this system. I figure it's that relationship with Cutler is why he's here. But the coaching staff liked him enough to stick with the guy over other alternatives, so who are we to judge unless you think Trestman and Emery are doing a bad job so far this year.

    I don't know who you thought the Bears could have gotten by trading back "to get more picks to get a real qb" that would be doing a better job of holding a clipboard on the sidelines than McCown is.
     
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    The concern about Cutler is just how inept he was in that 2nd quarter when the game was decided. Blame the defense all you want but Cutler put them in a HUGE HOLE with his 3 and outs and pick. He buried the Bears in that 2nd quarter, then he decides he wants to play in the last 7 minutes of the 4th.
     
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