Great Defense > Great Offense (Emery has a lot of work to do if we are to WIN a Super Bowl)

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  1. riczaj01

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    Our O was not near as good as theirs, and they have less weapons, and our D isn't even playing the same game. The Bears are not, barring devastating inj's, even close to competing w/SF let alone Sea.
     
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    What?! We were second in the league in points scored, 8th in yards, 5th in passing yards. Seattle was 8th in points, 17th in yards, and 26th in passing. They had us in rushing. Let's not get hysterical here...the Seahawks were not better than us on offense.
     
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    As is typical in a blow out.. the winner isn't as good as they look and the losers not as bad. I live in the Seattle area and have watched the Hawks all season. They are not the 85 Bears but they are a damn good unit. They are made up of late round draft picks and free agent signings. No reason why we couldn't get lucky with the same tactics.
     
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    Yesterday, to me anyway, proved our D has a long way to go. Not just in terms of talent, but also drive and desire. The Seahawks attacked and just kept sacrificing themselves physically to win, that comes for both talent and especially coaching. They imposed their will on the Broncos plain and simple. We have some work to do.
     
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    The Broncos surely let them. Hard to defend the first snap going into the end zone for a safety. That had nothing to do with the Hawks. Not to take away from a great performance but it is hard to separate one from the other. You don't know how much was dominance vs. the opponent rolling over.
     
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    I believe we can get better this coming season on defense. I'm hoping for the best. But it's not going to be a simple one off-season fix and it's all "good" again. We're looking at a major rebuild of the defense. We still don't know (for certain) that Mel is "The Guy" who can fix the defense. Hope so, but it remains to be seen. If that's "over dramatic" then so be it. I'm in that wait and see mode. I'm through getting all giddy over players or coaches until they prove they can deliver. We have guys who have proven themselves on the offense. Just like we had those guys on defense under Lovie Smith. Now let's see if we can get a decent defense with Trestman's wonderful offense. Then maybe we can actually win some championships here in Chicago before I die of old age - I'm an old geezer now so they better hurry:)
     
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    I'd say fix the D line first then the safety's. Re-sign Peanut. Get a DT, DE, and SS in FA then lather, rinse, repeat in the draft. That's probably as much as can be done with getting another TE, OC, and/or slot player in mind.
     
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    The question with the Seahawks now is, are they still hungry? Do they still have that chip on there shoulders?
     
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    Great D with just a reasonable O is the perfect formula, but you can't just make a team on paper. Other teams have won with an even better O and a D that is good if not outstanding.

    One thing about Denver's D is the effect of injuries. They lost their best CB (Harris), a good D line player (Wolfe) and their best sack guy (Miler) and were still reasonable on D when put in the right situations (ie, with another team concerned about Manning and without a team playing as smart as Seattle did). See how they stopped the run pretty well and forced 3rd down and medium yardage and then lacked the shut down corner play or the QB pressure to make it work. If they were fit on D they might have at least given their O a chance to find a way to get something on going. Take away the safety that really counted for 5 points (2 plus the FG), the Pick 6 and the Special teams TD and you take 19 off the score and it might have been a game where both teams scored in the 20's.

    Which brings me to my next point. Special Teams are crucial. In fact the best way to win a superbowl with an unbalanced team is to have an edge on special teams.

    The other thing to focus on is as good as Denver's offense has been with QB play, solid play at RB and elite receiving they came unstuck on the O line. Their O tackles (bad RT and bad back up at LT) were exploited. Of course if the receivers could get open quicker or they could run the ball more efficiently then it wouldn't have mattered but we have to keep improving our O line.

    We are going to struggle to beat the likes of Seattle, Carolina and SF whilst they have these dominant D's and above average young QB's doing well on O. But in a couple of years the salary cap will impact them so now is certainly the time to keep our O strong and build the D. Seattle showed how quickly a defense can be built with the right drafting and coaching. Lets hope we can do the same.
     
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    Lets not overstate this like so many analysts are doing in the immediate aftermath (that "defense wins every time"). It was ONE game and not "proof" of anything. Yes, the Seattle D was dominant and impressive. But the Denver O also picked the worst possible time to have their worst game of the year by far. Their OL was a dumpster fire from the first snap. Their O game plan sucked. Their running game was non-existent. Manning (despite a record number of completions) had a horrible game--happy feet, inaccurate passes, turnovers, rattled back there.

    Seattle outplayed them by far in ALL THREE phases and that was with Lynch having a very pedestrian game. The seattle O is a pretty potent unit themselves with Harvin back in there. There was way more to it than "the best D winning over the best O".
     
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