Guys please respond-I want your HONEST opinion

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  1. BradMustersGhost

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    WHY did we lose that Super Bowl against the Colts? If you had to name your top 2-3 reasons as to why we lost it, what would you list? It still kinda irks me that the game was EMINENTLY WINNABLE. It's not like Manning blasted our defense with a stat-bustin' game. That Colts team really wasn't THAT good. We could have won that game. Conventional wisdom seems to suggest that we lost because: A-Lovie wouldn't let Chico blitz as much as he wanted to AND B-Rex Grossman sucks. Are those the reasons which you would cite? Please let me know. Do you guys even remember that game?

    P.S. If Tommie Harris hadn't been injured earlier that season, do you think we win that game, or do you think we still lose? Henry Burris, please respond.
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    We were playing Peyon F'n Manning
    Injury to Benson ruined the entire game plan
    Grossman
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    Lovie's shitbox play calling
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    No Benson
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    Grossman
    Turner
    P.Manning
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    They had Peyton & Dungy we had Grossman & Lovie what a F'n joke.

    That F'n game gave Lovie his BS contract we had to endure to this day because of that F'n SB. FFFF....KKKK
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    Moving away from the running game to put the game in the hands of Rex. Terrible decision.
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    with all due respect, Manning did NOT have a great or even a very good game. By his standards, he had an average to slightly above average game, so I wouldn't say that we were doomed to lose simply because he was on the opposing team. IMHO, we win that game IF we just have a capable QB under center.
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    Manning may not have had a great game, but even a poor Manning game is deadly.

    Perhaps the biggest reason we lost that game was the loss of Benson. After he went down with injury, the entire game plan went out of the window.
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    The busted coverage by the safety (I believe it was Manning), that allowed for Reggie Wayne to catch a pass that was VERY off course, due to Manning being under pressure, which lead to the Colts first touchdown. If Mike Brown had been in, that would NOT have been the result of that play. It was BAD coverage.

    Olin Kreutz did his magical "let's hike the ball to where the QB can't get it" crap. Don't even defend him, he did that with EVERY QB. He was a very good player, but he was very flawed when it cam to snapping the ball, same way Walter Payton was with fumbling.

    Cedric Benson receiving that knee injury really hurt, but the Colts D was playing a LOT of 8 men in the box.

    Yeah, the D got torn apart by Peyton Manning, BUT a legitimate offense would've kept our defense on the field, and the Colts were only able to score 24 offensive points. Take that pick 6 away, and even if we only came away with a field goal that drive, it'd have been 22 20.

    Rex Grossman, however, was without a doubt, our biggest problem. Lovie SHOULD have put Griese in the game, at least by the 4th quarter. The Colts were playing a very aggressive defense, and all we needed was a QB that could complete some short and intermediate passes, and they would've had to back off the run game. I still think we lost the Super Bowl because Rex's "last chance" before getting benched was that St. Louis game, where Devin Hester returned 2 for TD's, and Rex's job was pretty easy that night. Even in the Saints game, Rex didn't play even efficiently until well into the 3rd quarter. Besides, it was our RUNNING GAME which carried the offense to 39 points, and that gave a rejuvenated Colts defense (With Bob Sanders returning to action in the playoffs, their defense went from worst, to first in the postseason) the blueprint they needed to win the game: stop the Chicago Bears run game. Hell, I still think they should have put Griese in the NFCC, because Rex really didn't do so well: 11/26 for 144 yards and a TD. BTW, Brees had a better game against us, than Peyton Manning, and lost by a lot. So, yeah, it's mostly Grossman's fault for sucking, and Lovie's fault for not starting someone else.
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    Thanks for the in-depth response, Henry. I appreciate it.
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    Damn. I though Henry's response was gonna be something about not having Chad....
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    You asked for it: the Bears had an offense in place that was PERFECT for Chad's strengths as a QB; a good running game, a good possession WR and TE (good not great), and a talented offensive line. NYJ was asking for a 2nd to get him, and I'd be willing to have made that trade with the expectation that we weren't going to get Daniel Manning. The offense wouldn't have been as explosive, but it would've been significantly more efficient, as that 8 in the box crap the Colts got by with Grossman would NOT have worked with Chad Pennington. He had just enough arm strength to get the ball as far as needed without being inaccurate. Pennington would definitely have had our offense on the field a LOT longer than Grossman had it. Plus, he never admittedly didn't play well "because he was thinking about a New Years Eve Party" like that idiot Grossman.
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    happy now? :)
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    So you wanted the Bears to trade for Chad Pennington back in 2006 , Henry? Are you a big Pennington fan or something? I noticed your avatar when I first joined the board.
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    Actually I think that blown coverage was a Chris Harris boner - and the friggin rain didn't help matters , but whatever it's ancient history . It was still a great fun season with lots of great memories .
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    LOL. I'll spare the wall of text, but yes, I'm a big fan of Chad Pennington. Absolutely, I wanted Chad Pennington. Chad Pennington was a very smart player, and very accurate, but not the "home run" kind of guy. The offense would've been more consistent with him, even if it didn't score 30+ every game. For sure, he wouldn't have played like trash against the Dolphins, or the 2nd game against the Packers.
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    Is this going back to that reference a few years ago of players using Viagra to enhance on field performance? Of course when I read that, I immediately thought that they were only supposed to be playing football on the field :).

    Anyone else remember that, or am I being delusional again?
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    I vote delusional . Go take ur meds .
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    now I have to decide if I imagined already taking them...

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