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    Well done ric. Thats a lot of work right there. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    np, if I can ever figure out how to throw an excel file that looks nice in here I'll show the #'s in a prettier more effecient way.

    to boil it down, I think you want to look at is Rush attempts of 300-350+ or combined rush and rec of 350-400+, over the course of 3-4 consecutive seasons, when you combine rush/rec's for Forte he's only had 2 years over 350, and only 1 year of 300+ so even when you add his stuff together his career is still 50% under 300 touches, which is again crazy low #'s for a featured rb.
     
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    Thought I was alone in this thought BIM. I have beat the drum for a quality RB for a while now, but most don't view it as a need. Ford is what he is, an UDFA who is unlikely to be a guy to take over the RB1 role without a huge dropoff. Also, without a quality number 2 Forte will prolly get the crap kicked out of him again this year in terms of carries and hits he takes.
     
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    I think a quality RB is something that's a need, but not in round 2. I think these guys can be found in the mid-to-latter rounds nowadays.
     
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    Depends who is there in the 2nd. If Hyde or Hill (the two best RBs) are on the board at 51 that should draw a ton of thought and comparison to who else is there. Could be enormous value, 5 years ago these guys wouldn't make it out of the first round.
     
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    I am sort of interested in what the Browns will do in this draft. They say the Browns will draft an OT at #4 and Maziel at #26. It should be the reverse. I don't know what the Browns will do, but I'd bet the farm they won't do what these guys predict.
     
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    I think it's becoming increasingly obvious that Emery wants a safety as early as possible, and thinks that he'll be able to get one with all of the offensive talent in the draft. Maybe he still gets a DT if one is there, but Donald is increasingly predicted to go earlier than #14.
     
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    I've seen mocks where teams are jumping ahead of Chicago, into the ten range to get Donald, so ya I just don't see him getting drafted by Chicago.
     
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    Call me crazy but I highly doubt Manziel will get out of the top 10. Yes, he's a "high risk/reward" type pick rather than a "safe" one like Luck and even RG3 were a few years ago. He's also a phenom who's exciting to fans and that fact will push his draft position higher than maybe is justified by the pure football analysis of it. In other words, I can see a down and out franchise like Jacksonville, Oakland, or even Cleveland drafting him early because A) they hope the reward will pan out a la Russell Wilson AND B) they know it will inject excitement into the fan base and put butts in the seats.

    Those first two I mentioned are in deep trouble. Jax can't sell out their stadium and the team is constantly the subject of move-rumors. Oakland needs a new facility and they too are frequently mentioned as a team that may relocate to LA once the physical structure is in place. I can see those two owners being tempted to draft Manziel to invigorate their fan base and give them negotiating leverage in whatever plans they have.
     
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    That's my impression too. Donald would easily be a top-10 pick guaranteed if he were 10-15 lbs heavier and therefore a little more versatile. St. Louis is gonna field offers for that 13th pick so I wouldn't be surprised at all for someone to move up to get ahead of us if he's still there. And he might not even make it that far.
     

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